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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Galringly lacking onthat FAQ page is the question "Where do you get your information?"

    That is the only question I want answered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    There's that and more
    You're telling me ... Charles Gaba is a Democrat Party volunteer ... not a statistician or health care professional ... but he says he is in favor of Single Payer ... and so is Obama ... tell ya anything?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The question my post responded to concerned the # of people who previously had insurance but would go without insurance in 2014 because of ACA. My link addressed that issue, and not the various distractions you raise
    The simple fact is that people that already HAD insurance and then had their insurance CANCELLED (you know...because they were lied to) were ALREADY RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO CARRY INSURANCE. Counting them as part of the 'success story' is beyond dishonest. Claiming that well golly...it doesnt really matter that you ****ed them over because they can get something else...thats just...wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The simple fact is that people that already HAD insurance and then had their insurance CANCELLED (you know...because they were lied to) were ALREADY RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO CARRY INSURANCE. Counting them as part of the 'success story' is beyond dishonest. Claiming that well golly...it doesnt really matter that you ****ed them over because they can get something else...thats just...wow.
    The simple fact is that there aren't millions of previously insured people who won't have coverage in 2014 and no one said anything about the being a "success story". You just made that up out of thin air.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The simple fact is that there aren't millions of previously insured people who won't have coverage in 2014 and no one said anything about the being a "success story". You just made that up out of thin air.
    Anytime someone touts some number as a 'success (which is what the current administration is doing and is what the OP is all about) those numbers come into question. The FACT is that the Obama administration lied about people keeping their policies and that when those policies were cancelled, responsible people acted responsibly. Just like they were doing before. Your defense of the situation is equivalent to "Hey...I know I ****ed up your marriage and forced you to get a divorce, but good news...Im your new date!"

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Anytime someone touts some number as a 'success (which is what the current administration is doing and is what the OP is all about) those numbers come into question.
    No one touted the # I posted as a success. It was accurately portrayed as a rebuttal to the lie that right wingers have been telling
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Anytime someone touts some number as a 'success (which is what the current administration is doing and is what the OP is all about) those numbers come into question. The FACT is that the Obama administration lied about people keeping their policies and that when those policies were cancelled, responsible people acted responsibly. Just like they were doing before. Your defense of the situation is equivalent to "Hey...I know I ****ed up your marriage and forced you to get a divorce, but good news...Im your new date!"
    Not only that but the fact that they had to lower the success numbers 3 times to get to that point. there is simply no way they can declare success.
    according to the healthcare industry there is only 1/4 or so of the people signed up were previously uninsured the bulk of the people signing up previously had insurance.

    20% have not paid their first month premium

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Reports? What reports? Do you have a link?
    Insurance experts have estimated that between 80 to 85 percent of the total tally have paid their first premiums, which is required for people to be officially enrolled.

    Obamacare enrollment at 6 million, hits goal: White House

    At any rate we should have the final numbers by mid April.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Insurance experts have estimated that between 80 to 85 percent of the total tally have paid their first premiums, which is required for people to be officially enrolled.

    Obamacare enrollment at 6 million, hits goal: White House
    no the goal was 7m. and before that it was 8m so no it didn't hit the goal. the problem is if they will continue to pay.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Not only that but the fact that they had to lower the success numbers 3 times to get to that point. there is simply no way they can declare success.
    according to the healthcare industry there is only 1/4 or so of the people signed up were previously uninsured the bulk of the people signing up previously had insurance.

    20% have not paid their first month premium
    Untrue on both counts

    New York, Kentucky: FINALLY, clarity on the "Previously Uninsured" numbers! | ACASignups.net

    This article is more specific: The number for NY QHPs is 59% of QHP enrollees (vs. 90% of Medicaid), and in KY is, surprisingly higher, at 75% for each!
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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