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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, I saw that too, and it will take considerable time, and work to find and verify his conclusions from those numbers, unfortunately as much as I would love to waste the day doing that, right now I have the wife calling me to action on a truck load of mulch.....heh, heh....So, I'll have to do it later....For right now though, the only question I have is if the government is putting out those numbers, then why do they dodge the question when asked specifically? ie; Sebilius saying directly that they don't have those numbers?

    It all seems so shady...I don't know. But thanks for giving me the site again.
    From what I've seen, he doesn't have the #'s for all of the states. Instead, he has collected data from reports of several states

    In other words, his "conclusions" do not necessarily apply to the entire program. To be technical, his data only applies to the states that he has collected data from. To say that the results that this subset of states have seen will apply to all of the states is not something that can be said with certainty

    However, in the absence of complete data for all of the states, I don't think it's unreasonable to say "Let's go with the best data we have". It may not be representative of every state, but it's the best we have and in the absence of any reason to think that the states which haven't reported are significantly different in some way, it is also reasonable to assume that the final results will be similar, though probably not exactly the same.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I've already posted a link to info about the guy who runs the site and you can just click on "Home->FAQ" to see it.

    And the various pages explain where the info comes from (ie various govt sources)
    So, hearsay...basically.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    That ****s funny right there!

    A democrat report created by democrats has decared those peopel REALLY didnt LOSE 'coverage'...because after all...

    According to the report, half of the 4.7 million will have the option to renew their 2013 plans, thanks to an administrative fix this year.
    Of the remaining 2.35 million individuals, 1.4 million should be eligible for tax credits through the marketplaces or Medicaid, according to the report.
    Of the remaining 950,000 individuals, fewer than 10,000 people in 18 counties will lack access to an affordable catastrophic plan.

    EVen though they WERE cancelled...they can graciously get their plans back. Except...they cant because the insurance companies dont offer them anymore (because the ACA makes them liable). Or hey...good news...YES it was cancelled...but you can either go on government assistance or have a tax credit to buy into the ACA (again...those people were ALREADY responsible and insured).

    So...according to the democrats....they didnt REALLY have their insurance plans cancelled because after they were cancelled they can get new insurance coverage.
    The question my post responded to concerned the # of people who previously had insurance but would go without insurance in 2014 because of ACA. My link addressed that issue, and not the various distractions you raise
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    So, hearsay...basically.
    Wrong again
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Wrong again
    Uhm, no. He's just some guy in a basement somewhere. Where's the official reporting from the govt on the real numbers?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Uhm, no. He's just some guy in a basement somewhere. Where's the official reporting from the govt on the real numbers?
    Asked and answered
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbarian View Post
    Hate to be bearer of bad news but it has already failed.....
    Yes because Rush told you so. Such a good listener.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Asked and answered
    Not so much, as usual.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Well, my insurance didn't change and the insurance rates went down for a friend, so if we're using personal anecdotes, Obamacare is a success.

    Are you really comparing the first month of an incredibly glitchy website and a website which has mostly been fixed and in use for 6 months?
    NO, the government has never given number like this before. They have always said, even earlier this month, that theyre were no number as to how many signed up. So why all of a sudden a couple of days before the end of the month, do they know.

    The answer is that they don't know just as before and the number is made up. Who is going to be able to verify the number given?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Why exactly would you trust a private website for the number?

    Didn't you ask where he got those number in the first place?

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