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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    According to the reports about 85 percent have paid so far.
    OP article says 80%, not 85%. And thats just those that eventually fully enroll. It does not indicate how many of those are subsidized or are getting on Medicaid.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    How many of those enrollees have paid their first months premium? How many are subsidized? How many are medicaid signups? How many of those that do pay are young? THOSE are the figures that should be looked at to see if it is successful or if it will go bellyup.

    I know the article states that about 25% of the signups (note thats signups...not fully enrolled) are young, between ages 18-34, but it also states that at least 40% is required. Though honestly 40% seems on the low end to me.
    Plus, how many who have signed up for Obamacare actually had coverage but lost it due to Obamacare? But this whole issue of 5 or 6 million sign ups is just a distraction. Even if you grant them 7 million fully paid new Obamacare signups, that is still only a fraction of those who were uncovered prior to the passage of the law and only a fraction of the 330 million total Americans. If the goal was to get care for 7 million uninsured that could have been done easily without this massive legislation that impacts the entire health care system and every single American.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Obamacare tops 6 million signups - Mar. 27, 2014


    Funny, no mention of this on Fox? Shocking I tell you. Shocking.
    How many of them were previously uninsured?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    How many of those enrollees have paid their first months premium?
    Though not all of the states have reported it, the states that have reported it have reported that 85% have paid.

    How many are subsidized?
    Don't know

    How many are medicaid signups?
    The Medicaid signups are not included in the 6 million total. There are 6.5 million of Medicaid and CHIP signups

    How many of those that do pay are young?
    I believe that the initial projections were 40%, and are coming in at 25% through the exchange and at higher rates off the exchange. Insurers differ on the ratio needed with some saying 40% is not necessary for it to work.

    Young adults signing up at higher rates off Obamacare exchanges
    Since Jan. 1, about 45 percent of those picking new health plans through eHealth were between 18 and 34 years old, the company says. By comparison, the all-important demographic accounted for 27 percent of signups on Obamacare exchanges the past couple of months. EHealth says its rate of youth enrollment has increased from 39 percent of signups between October and December.
    Young Signups Key For ACA Success - Top News - InsuranceNewsNet.com
    But some insurers have said the 40 percent is on the high end for what is necessary to balance the pool. And after a slow start -- largely attributable to computer glitches that stalled enrollment at HealthCare.gov, the government website for enrollment -- sign-ups among young people have begun to accelerate.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    OP article says 80%, not 85%. And thats just those that eventually fully enroll. It does not indicate how many of those are subsidized or are getting on Medicaid.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Plus, how many who have signed up for Obamacare actually had coverage but lost it due to Obamacare? But this whole issue of 5 or 6 million sign ups is just a distraction.
    Stunning new report undermines central GOP Obamacare claim

    According to this report, only 10,000 will lose insurance due to ACA.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How many of them were previously uninsured?
    New York, Kentucky: FINALLY, clarity on the "Previously Uninsured" numbers! | ACASignups.net

    f getting health coverage for the uninsured is the primary goal of Obamacare, then New York and Kentucky seem to be doing more than their fair share of that work.

    In Kentucky, 75 percent of the nearly 65,000 people who enrolled in private Obamacare insurance sold on the state-run exchange were uninsured at the time they enrolled, according to questionnaires they filled out when they applied. And 75 percent of people who enrolled in Medicaid via the exchange likewise had been uninsured.

    In New York, 59 percent of the nearly 343,000 private Obamacare plan enrollees reported being uninsured when they picked their plans. And 90 percent of the Medicaid enrollments via the state's exchange reported having been uninsured.
    ASSUMING this holds true nationally (and I'm not saying that it does), but if it does, that would mean that of the appx. 5.6 million people who should be enrolled in QHPs by now, around 3.5M of them did NOT already have insurance. If my final projection (currently at 6.2M, but this could change) holds true, then around 3.84M would be newly insured.

    So, what about the remaining 2.36 million people? Well, most of those would indeed come out of the "OMG!! 5M CANCELLED POLICY!!" number. Another 1.3M kept their noncompliant policies via the grandfathering extension, and the remaining 1.34 million or so presumably went off-exchange.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    So, out of the 32 million uninsured people that Obamacare was supposed to get insurance for, maybe 3.84 million have been reached?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    So, out of the 32 million uninsured people that Obamacare was supposed to get insurance for, maybe 3.84 million have been reached?
    Your math is fuzzy
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    So, out of the 32 million uninsured people that Obamacare was supposed to get insurance for, maybe 3.84 million have been reached?
    The only inescapable fact seems to be that no one really knows what's going on, including the politicians. Perhaps this confusion was inevitable when a formerly free people have to become part of government systems. Europeans have had generations of this conditioning but that has not be as true of Americans, until this recent generation.

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