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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm a conservative and I'd love to see people get helped. But all people, not just the poor. Healthcare costs are way too high for most of us and it's eating up a substantial portions of our incomes. This bill didn't fix that problem.

    The GOP isn't going to sweep anything. They will retain control of the House and probably pick up a few seats in the Senate. POTUS is too far away to consider.
    I respectfully disagree. My prediction is that there will end up being a 50-50 split in the Senate, but am open to the possibility that the GOP will end up with 51. In non-presidential year elections, Democrats just don't turn out.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I respectfully disagree. My prediction is that there will end up being a 50-50 split in the Senate, but am open to the possibility that the GOP will end up with 51. In non-presidential year elections, Democrats just don't turn out.
    and if democrats do turn out?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I respectfully disagree. My prediction is that there will end up being a 50-50 split in the Senate, but am open to the possibility that the GOP will end up with 51. In non-presidential year elections, Democrats just don't turn out.
    You could be right about the 50-50 split. It sure will be interesting to see what happens. I'll admit I thought Romney was going to win in 2012 so what do I know.

    What's your theory on why the Dems don't turn out in the non-POTUS election years?

    By the way, they did (unfortunately) turn out in 2006, in droves. Not the GOP's best year.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and if democrats do turn out?
    If they do turn out, they will only lose 3 seats at most in the Senate, but Republicans still control the House. The GOP gerrymander of the 2010's was brilliant.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I think the government planned it that way. At least, they didn't try to hide it.


    Medicaid was the reason that the health care system needed an over haul. I don't know how putting more people on medicaid will help solve that problem...but the CBO office predicts the ACA will help reduce the nations debt. So perhaps the real reason for the ACA isn't to save the consumers money...it's to save the government money that it pays on the national debt. Apparently, medicaid costs were becoming a bottomless money pit and ACA is the plug.


    I think your doom and gloom is a bit premature considering the law has only been in effect for a few months and way too soon to draw such unsubstantiated conclusions. I don't like paying for insurance anymore than next person, but I'm glad that social safety net is there now....and not because of poor folks...but because who knows, me and mine might need it, too. Anyway, as time goes on the law will undoubtedly get "tweaked"...just as other laws of such magnitude have in the past. And in no time at all, people will just take health insurance for granted...just like they do social security.
    Medicaid pays the doctors at a 50% reimbursement rate for the approved costs vs. Medicare's 80%, if we are going to put the poor on medicaid and expect it to actually help them, then we must raise the reimbursement rate so doctors will want to accept medicaid patients. New Jersey believe it or not has the lowest number/percentage wise that will accept medicaid insurance, that is 40%. Perhaps you are right, it was planned this way. Why? I don't know, but what I do know is putting more and more people on medicaid without increasing the number of doctors who accept medicaid and new patients it is not solving the problem.

    I was referring to both a Gallup and a Rasmussen poll which stated the ACA was hurting more than twice as many people as it has helping. Perhaps that is doom and gloom, but I always thought the idea was always to help more than you hurt. The social safety net is necessary, but I am not sure if the ACA actually classifies as one. But that is just a matter of opinion. According to a CNN truth squad, there were 14 million Americans who qualified for Medicare/Medicaid prior to the ACA, but were not enrolled. Just getting those enrolled would have solved half the problem without any additional legislation. So when I look at the ACA, I just say Hmm, figures.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Obamacare tops 6 million signups - Mar. 27, 2014Funny, no mention of this on Fox? Shocking I tell you. Shocking.
    This part was interesting.
    Reaching 6 million is a symbolic victory for the Obama administration following the botched launch in October.
    A symbolic victory for whom? It should be a victory for the American people but 6 million people out of a population of over 300 million people doesn't seem to be that great a victory for anyone, symbolic or otherwise.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    The right is so desperate for Obamacare to fail. It is pretty pathetic.
    Desperation has nothing to do with it.

    Obama Care isn't failing because we oppose it. Its failing because its a horrible law.

    If that makes your ass hurt too bad.

    We DID warn you people, and everyone else that this was going to happen and that promises used to sell this disaster were bald face lies.

    Our predictions were true, our analysis was proven to be accurate, we correctly stated that every Democrat politican that opened their mouths back when they were trying to sell this monstrosity was really just lying through their teeth.

    So why is it our fault again ?

    The beauty of ObamaCare is that we dont have to do a thing except watch it fail miserably.

    Oh and watch the hilarity of countless Liberals trying to mitigate away the damage this laws doing everyday.

    Thats highly entertaining.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Cause it's bull****.
    Keen analysis.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Desperation has nothing to do with it.

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    It has everything to do with it.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    It has everything to do with it.
    Actually, the desperation here lies totally with the Obamacare defenders. So desperate are you for any kind of good news about what is objectively a bad law, you start meaningless cheerleading threads like this. That's desperation.

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