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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You accused me of lying about 48 million.
    You claimed that ACA was meant to cover all of the 48 million uninsured. I said that was untrue

    Then you claimed you said nothing about covering the 48 million uninsured. That was the lie.

    IOW, I did not accuse you of lying about the 48 million. I accused you of lying when you denied saying anything about the 48 million.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, I knew that you were just making up stuff even though you have no evidence that anyone has had an exchange plan cancelled for non-payment



    That's lot less than the unlimited OOP expenses people with no insurance can find themselves owing.
    I never said anyone has been cancelled for non-payment. Are you having trouble reading, or are you just having a rough Friday in general?

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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Or maybe you could read the explanation at the link, though that would not be as much fun as making stuff up.
    I read the link this morning. The man who runs that website is a staffer at The Daily Kos. Hate to burst your bubble there sangha, but them's the facts.

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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You claimed that ACA was meant to cover all of the 48 million uninsured. I said that was untrue

    Then you claimed you said nothing about covering the 48 million uninsured. That was the lie.

    IOW, I did not accuse you of lying about the 48 million. I accused you of lying when you denied saying anything about the 48 million.

    Translation: You don't know, you accused me of lying, and now you're caught running away from the fail. Thank you for reiterating why I ignore your posts.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I read the link this morning. The man who runs that website is a staffer at The Daily Kos. Hate to burst your bubble there sangha, but them's the facts.
    Like your "fact" that he thinks there's only 12 states, right?
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Translation: You don't know, you accused me of lying, and now you're caught running away from the fail. Thank you for reiterating why I ignore your posts.
    Don't ignore his posts. They're too good to miss. I enjoy them. I constantly catch him making things up and all other sorts of malfeasants.

    Last week he posted a link to something that he said backs up his claim that MA has the 22nd highest cost of healthcare in the country. That he posted in response to me saying MA had the highest cost of any state in the country. I opened his link, saw that it was exactly as I said it was, and then went to post on his post, and it was gone. Poof. When I asked him about it, he said he removed the post because he read it wrong, says he didn't want anyone to respond to it, then tried to say he "admits" when he's wrong. Poor fellow doesn't understand that deleting a post isn't an admission of anything - it's an attempt to save face. Too bad for him I caught him in the act.

    My first experience with him was catching him declaring that NH was "decidedly right wing and has been for years". I had to educate the poor guy on the truth. That, coupled with me busting him on his hypocrisy on the use of Politifact, all make him one of my favorite posters to trip up. He makes it so easy.

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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Translation: You don't know, you accused me of lying, and now you're caught running away from the fail. Thank you for reiterating why I ignore your posts.
    You lied

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Probably. The ACA was predicated on three primary things: 1.) Covering 48 million uninsured 2.) Reducing the cost of health insurance 3.) The individual mandate
    Minor selling points were: Creation of jobs, reduction in family cost for insurance, no refusal for pre-existing conditions

    If 48 million needed insurance, a plan to cover them should have been put together and funded. Instead, the ACA created a plan where those who didn't need health insurance and who primarily wouldn't use it much or at all, would pay for those who did need it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No where have I stated 100% was the expected coverage. You assume that - however, enough people have to sign up and pay, to cover those who do not or cannot pay. Do you deny this was how the ACA was financially structured?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Like your "fact" that he thinks there's only 12 states, right?
    Yes, sangha, the word "maybe" means "fact". Or does it?

    You may want to take a break. Is your face red?

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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I never said anyone has been cancelled for non-payment.
    No, you never said anything about people being cancelled for non-payment
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Except of course the dozens of millions who remain uninsured, the ones whose policies they bought on the Exchange get cancelled because they can't afford or don't pay the premiums, and the ones who can't afford the out of pocket expenses they have to pony up.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
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    re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes, sangha, the word "maybe" means "fact". Or does it?

    You may want to take a break. Is your face red?
    So you think there's a chance that he thinks there's only 12 states?
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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