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World Vision reverses policy that allowed hiring of gays due to religious backlas

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Try to comprehend this: a charity overturns a policy prohibiting gays to be hired in the expectation that more people would donate if they took a more tolerant stance.

What happened instead? Almost immediately after the change was announced, the Assemblies of God (USA) urged its one million members (three million adherents) to discontinue their support for the organization.

Christian sympathy and charity know no limits - within a tightly-defined paradigm. Stray from it at your own peril.

Two Days Later, World Vision Reverses Policy That Allowed Hiring Of Gays : The Two-Way : NPR

World Vision U.S. changed course on Wednesday, saying it would return to its policy of not hiring Christians in gay marriages.

The Washington-state-based charity caused an uproar among its supporters when it announced on Monday that based on the changes many churches were making, it would allow the hiring of avowed Christians who had been legally married to someone of the same sex.

World Vision U.S. president Richard Stearns explained the organization was not endorsing gay marriage. Instead, gay marriage would join a series of issues — like divorce, remarriage, baptism, female priests — that many Christian churches disagree on.

"Changing the employee conduct policy to allow someone in a same-sex marriage who is a professed believer in Jesus Christ to work for us makes our policy more consistent with our practice on other divisive issues," he told Christianity Today. "It also allows us to treat all of our employees the same way: abstinence outside of marriage, and fidelity within marriage."
 
Try to comprehend this: a charity overturns a policy prohibiting gays to be hired in the expectation that more people would donate if they took a more tolerant stance.

What happened instead? Almost immediately after the change was announced, the Assemblies of God (USA) urged its one million members (three million adherents) to discontinue their support for the organization.

Christian sympathy and charity know no limits - within a tightly-defined paradigm. Stray from it at your own peril.

Two Days Later, World Vision Reverses Policy That Allowed Hiring Of Gays : The Two-Way : NPR

I have never donated to Worldvision because I have never trusted them. As a charity Worldvision always too way more money out for "administrative costs" than other charities like The Salvation Army or Catholic Charities.

It doesn't surprise me now that they are having marketing woes. Reminds of Coca-Cola and the "New Coke" fiasco.
 
Try to comprehend this: a charity overturns a policy prohibiting gays to be hired in the expectation that more people would donate if they took a more tolerant stance.

What happened instead? Almost immediately after the change was announced, the Assemblies of God (USA) urged its one million members (three million adherents) to discontinue their support for the organization.

Christian sympathy and charity know no limits - within a tightly-defined paradigm. Stray from it at your own peril.

Two Days Later, World Vision Reverses Policy That Allowed Hiring Of Gays : The Two-Way : NPR

You expected something else from Assemblies of God? Pretty naive.
 
Gotta love the power of Religion....Making baby Jesus cry every day.
 
That's the way it works. People give to charities that share their beliefs. Go against those beliefs...you lose out.
 
That's a tough paradigm. Do you allow homosexuals to work for you, making your outreach less effective due to millions fewer donors or do you not allow them and use the money your donors give to help more people?

Some interesting points here. First, the government can legislate equaler treatment for homosexuals, but legislation doesn't change minds. Whether you like it or not people are who they are. Now, IF (and that is a mighty big if) supporters of homosexuals really cared about them beyond lip service, enough of them could replace the lost Assembly of God supporters and the charity could continue as before. It appears these Christians are more charitable than supporters of the gay community are. Of course many here will side step this iss u e and explain why they would not give to this particular charity anyway, but the point remains that statistically conservatives (particularly lower income conservatives) give a much larger percentage of their income to charitable pursuits than do liberals. If you are going to operate a charity it makes sense to lean right.
 
That's the way it works. People give to charities that share their beliefs. Go against those beliefs...you lose out.

There is only one belief that should have any relevance: Helping those who are in need
 
That's the way it works. People give to charities that share their beliefs. Go against those beliefs...you lose out.

Such charity from the apostles of the fraudulent Messiah.

And lo, the Lord saith: let the children starve if the faggots are employed.
 
Now, IF (and that is a mighty big if) supporters of homosexuals really cared about them beyond lip service, enough of them could replace the lost Assembly of God supporters and the charity could continue as before. It appears these Christians are more charitable than supporters of the gay community are.

There aren't even three million out gay people in the United States; including estimate numbers of everyone who's engaged in same-sex activities scarcely raises the number to eight million.

No, what this is is spiritual hostage-holding by the usual suspects.



No redeemer liveth.
 
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There aren't even three million out gay people in the United States; including estimate numbers of everyone who's engaged in same-sex activities scarcely raises the number to eight million.

No, what this is is spiritual hostage-holding by the usual suspects.

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No redeemer liveth.

If that's true [that they are an insignificant portion ofthe population] then why should the charity cater to Gays?

The Homosexual lobby probably pressured them to change their stance in the first place.
 
If that's true [that they are an insignificant portion ofthe population] then why should the charity cater to Gays?

Equality of opportunity (in this case, employment opportunity) is 'catering'? Was it not conservatives who dreamt up the concept of equality of opportunity, as distinguished as equality of outcome? World Vision merely opened itself to the possibility of hiring gays. They did not institute an internal mandate.

Nobody demanded that World Vision take action - affirmative action - to guarantee that gays were hired, to meet a self-imposed quota. They simply insisted that World Vision not prohibit employing gays, that it not disqualify them automatically (as it did then and does now) from employment.

There is no 'catering' here, though you, in your right-wing rage to feel offended, will doubtless perceive it regardless.
 
Equality of opportunity (in this case, employment opportunity) is 'catering'? Was it not conservatives who dreamt up the concept of equality of opportunity, as distinguished as equality of outcome? World Vision merely opened itself to the possibility of hiring gays. They did not institute an internal mandate.

Nobody demanded that World Vision take action - affirmative action - to guarantee that gays were hired, to meet a self-imposed quota. They simply insisted that World Vision not prohibit employing gays, that it not disqualify them automatically (as it did then and does now) from employment.

There is no 'catering' here, though you, in your right-wing rage to feel offended, will doubtless perceive it regardless.

I don't feel offended at all. They reversed their decision.

This organization says it's based on and motivated by the commandments of Jesus Christ. Why is the Gay lobby trying to change that and every other institution who doesn't agree with them? Why must everyone compromise?
 
I don't feel offended at all. They reversed their decision.

This organization says it's based on and motivated by the commandments of Jesus Christ. Why is the Gay lobby trying to change that and every other institution who doesn't agree with them? Why must everyone compromise?

Refusing to employ a homosexual is in the "commandments of Jesus Christ"? I know he said a lot of stupid ****, but I don't recall Christ saying "thou shalt not hire homosexuals".
 
Refusing to employ a homosexual is in the "commandments of Jesus Christ"? I know he said a lot of stupid ****, but I don't recall Christ saying "thou shalt not hire homosexuals".
A lot is said about 'compromise' [which is what WV was doing]

http://www.openbible.info/topics/compromise

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments."

"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry"
 
A lot is said about 'compromise' [which is what WV was doing]

What Does the Bible Say About Compromise?

“If you love me, you will keep my commandments."

"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

Have you ever seen a really attractive woman and wanted to take her to bed?
 
We are all sinners from the get-go...that's not the issue. Compromise is.

Of course. And a God-fearing organization like World Vision should not compromise by hiring a backsliding reprobate like yourself.

You have heard that it was said, “You shall not commit adultery”: but I say unto you, that every one who looks on a woman to lust after her has committed adultery with her already in his heart.

- Matthew 5:27-28

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I simply feel that World Vision ought to have the God-given right to prohibit a womanizing adulterer-of-the-heart like yourself from employment a priori. That would be "following Christ's commandments" about as well as prohibiting gays from working there, after all.

(Of course, the real hilarity here is that we're talking about basing company policy on the words of an inferior, resentment-driven pissant Jewish messiah.)
 
Of course. And a God-fearing organization like World Vision should not compromise by hiring a backsliding reprobate like yourself.



- Matthew 5:27-28

What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I simply feel that World Vision ought to have the God-given right to prohibit a womanizing adulterer-of-the-heart like yourself from employment a priori. That would be "following Christ's commandments" about as well as prohibiting gays from working there, after all.

(Of course, the real hilarity here is that we're talking about basing company policy on the words of an inferior, resentment-driven pissant Jewish messiah.)

Nice way to talk about someone who died for our sins.

This conversation is over.
 
Nice way to talk about someone who died for our sins.

This conversation is over.

If you feel you've sinned, hang yourself from that Tree. Don't torture the whole of humanity with you.

Concession accepted.
 
I don't feel offended at all. They reversed their decision.

This organization says it's based on and motivated by the commandments of Jesus Christ. Why is the Gay lobby trying to change that and every other institution who doesn't agree with them? Why must everyone compromise?

I had no Idea Jesus said homosexuals were excluded from his message.....Could you please enlighten me as to where he did so?

Seems to me the issues arise from the OT, and a rather picky nut job named Leviticus.

These guys should stop hiring anyone who eats shellfish or wears interesting clothes too.
 
I had no Idea Jesus said homosexuals were excluded from his message.....Could you please enlighten me as to where he did so?

Seems to me the issues arise from the OT, and a rather picky nut job named Leviticus.

These guys should stop hiring anyone who eats shellfish or wears interesting clothes too.

If we take the words attributed to Christ in the canonical gospels alone (as certain eighteenth-century rational deists named Jefferson were wont to do), He, in all His divine profundity, never mentions homosexuality.

Of course, he mentions a lot of other moral commandments that are equally as nonsensical and unrealistic as a proscription on a 21st-century charity hiring homosexuals.
 
I had no Idea Jesus said homosexuals were excluded from his message.....Could you please enlighten me as to where he did so?

Seems to me the issues arise from the OT, and a rather picky nut job named Leviticus.

These guys should stop hiring anyone who eats shellfish or wears interesting clothes too.

He said plenty about compromising your faith.

What Does the Bible Say About Compromise?

"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry"
 
He said plenty about compromising your faith.

What Does the Bible Say About Compromise?

"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

Precisely. And so World Vision should make it a policy not to compromise, and ask all applicants whether or not they've ever lusted in their hearts, as President Carter would say. If they say yes, they should be barred from employment.

No compromise, even unto the gates of Hell.
 
He said plenty about compromising your faith.

What Does the Bible Say About Compromise?

"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry"

I see....so Jesus did not ask you to hate homosexuals...you simply decided to do it and attribute it to him.

Par for the course.
 
He said plenty about compromising your faith.

What Does the Bible Say About Compromise?

"Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry"


I see....so Jesus did not ask you to hate homosexuals...you simply decided to do it and attribute it to him.

Par for the course.

I guess you never had sex out of wedlock, skipped a shower, showed affection in public, or wanted anything?
 
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