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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

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    No, actually the State provides loans and grants to the majority of university students since they wouldn't otherwise be able to afford it because of skyrocketing tuition resulting from sports expenses and campus beautification projects. You're never going to convince anyone of that hogwash while universities like Ohio State spend over $100 million on athletics while slashing the budget of its College of Arts and Sciences.
    again you do not know what you are talking about. college athletics must keep their money separate from educational funding. everything done by the schools athletic department comes from the athletic department. it does not come from educational tuition.

    If it is slashing it's college and fine arts programs then it is because they don't have the students to support those programs. it has nothing to do with the sports program.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    The NCAA is not God throwing down lightning bolts from the sky. The NCAA is run by institutions for the benefit of institutions and give only lip service to the welfare of students. They could change their position and balance their governing board by putting student-athlete activists on it whose mission is to favor the athlete-students before favoring the institutions, you know a balanced approach.

    The NCAA is simply a "power at the moment." The student-athletes are challenging that power.
    The NCAA is the organization that sets the standards for college athletics. They have maintained and always maintained that student athletes are athletes and they are.

    they choose to play football of their own free will. in order to be accepted they have to make the grades to even be able to attend.


    Those are the rules of the game at this moment in time. Rules get changed all the time.
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    Simple. You twist their arm until it hurts them and they cry uncle. Then they come to the bargaining table and negotiate.
    Simple you signed a contract to play football for our school if you do not wish to play football then that is your choice and your scholarship is revoked have a nice day.
    that is your negotiation.

    sure they can transfer but then they lose a year of eligibility.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    I'm not saying sports are bad at all.
    My kids have all been in sports, mostly swimming, and the focus and concentration on the sport helped them significantly in school.

    But that doesnt mean they should go to college because they are good swimmers. They should go because they are good students.
    again that is your opinion, and you are entitled to it.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    The NCAA is the organization that sets the standards for college athletics. They have maintained and always maintained that student athletes are athletes and they are.

    they choose to play football of their own free will. in order to be accepted they have to make the grades to even be able to attend.



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    Simple you signed a contract to play football for our school if you do not wish to play football then that is your choice and your scholarship is revoked have a nice day.
    that is your negotiation.

    sure they can transfer but then they lose a year of eligibility.
    And the school that decides it's worth giving them some extra stuff will get the better players. I don't think you've thought this through. Star football players are in incredibly high demand because they bring in a crapload of money. They can always take that service to a different school.
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    The NCAA is the organization that sets the standards for college athletics. They have maintained and always maintained that student athletes are athletes and they are.
    EVERY single board member on the NCAA is a college president. There is no one on the NCAA board who speaks for student athletes.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    again you do not know what you are talking about. college athletics must keep their money separate from educational funding. everything done by the schools athletic department comes from the athletic department. it does not come from educational tuition.

    If it is slashing it's college and fine arts programs then it is because they don't have the students to support those programs. it has nothing to do with the sports program.
    Apparently its you who doesn't know what they're talking about. The vast majority of athletic programs are heavily subsidized/funded by the universities with educational funds and student tuition and fees.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And the school that decides it's worth giving them some extra stuff will get the better players. I don't think you've thought this through. Star football players are in incredibly high demand because they bring in a crapload of money. They can always take that service to a different school.
    the reason that they are not paid is for that exact reason. it keeps all schools on the same playing field. Do you honestly think that a kid would go to savannah state if texas, OK or someone come calling with a big check?

    you basically price Div II schools out of any shot of getting players and they do get good players in div II schools.
    the NCAA has already been considering a stipend, but again they run into issues of schools that can't afford it.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    the reason that they are not paid is for that exact reason. it keeps all schools on the same playing field. Do you honestly think that a kid would go to savannah state if texas, OK or someone come calling with a big check?

    you basically price Div II schools out of any shot of getting players and they do get good players in div II schools.
    the NCAA has already been considering a stipend, but again they run into issues of schools that can't afford it.
    How is this different than what goes on in the NFL? The Bears have a payroll of $104,583,933 compared to $53,446,196 for the Raiders.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    they were paid. they got a free ride to college with all books, classes, free room and board, free trainers, free medical staff, free training room etc..

    i added it up and on average a college athlete receives about 100k+ in benefits plus a degree, and a chance to make it in the NFL.
    so please don't tell me they didn't get paid. they are more compensated than non-sports students ever will be.

    of course then again they aren't employee's they are students. in order to play for the college team they have to make the grades, and attend class and enroll in school.
    this was a bogus ruling by a stacked board of union supporters.

    i see what northwestern and other private schools will do if the appeal fails and they can't go further they will just end their sports programs.
    which means the hundreds of kids that get to attend school won't be able to.
    It would be interesting to see how the IRS treats these new "employees" and their untaxed perks.

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