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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    they are compensated in more ways than one. again you don't know what you are talking about.
    I didn't say they weren't compensated I said they weren't paid.

    Take a gander at this and then come back when you feel you're read to post again

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

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    Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize - CNN.com



    This will change college athletics forever.

    I think this kills college athletics altogether except for football and men's basketball. Problem is, Title IX requires a school to offset the scholarships with women's sports, so it might even kill football and basketball, too at smaller schools.

    Thats great. Lets hope it kills college athletics altogether. Its a stupid concept..

    We are the only country in the world that treats our colleges like sports teams. Its bizarre.
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I didn't say they weren't compensated I said they weren't paid.

    Take a gander at this and then come back when you feel you're read to post again
    they were paid. they got a free ride to college with all books, classes, free room and board, free trainers, free medical staff, free training room etc..

    i added it up and on average a college athlete receives about 100k+ in benefits plus a degree, and a chance to make it in the NFL.
    so please don't tell me they didn't get paid. they are more compensated than non-sports students ever will be.

    of course then again they aren't employee's they are students. in order to play for the college team they have to make the grades, and attend class and enroll in school.
    this was a bogus ruling by a stacked board of union supporters.

    i see what northwestern and other private schools will do if the appeal fails and they can't go further they will just end their sports programs.
    which means the hundreds of kids that get to attend school won't be able to.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    they were paid. they got a free ride to college with all books, classes, free room and board, free trainers, free medical staff, free training room etc..

    i added it up and on average a college athlete receives about 100k+ in benefits plus a degree, and a chance to make it in the NFL.
    so please don't tell me they didn't get paid. they are more compensated than non-sports students ever will be.

    of course then again they aren't employee's they are students. in order to play for the college team they have to make the grades, and attend class and enroll in school.
    this was a bogus ruling by a stacked board of union supporters.

    i see what northwestern and other private schools will do if the appeal fails and they can't go further they will just end their sports programs.
    which means the hundreds of kids that get to attend school won't be able to.
    So if your employer didn't actually give you money but instead a bunch of stuff they thought you needed would you feel as if you were being paid?

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

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    Thats great. Lets hope it kills college athletics altogether. Its a stupid concept..

    We are the only country in the world that treats our colleges like sports teams. Its bizarre.
    so you think kids that can't afford college shouldn't go? you do realize that will only make the poverty level higher right?
    a lot of these kids are taken out of very bad situations and given a second chance at life where their only other option is to join a gang or
    engage in other criminal activity. some are the first kids in their family to attend college.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    of course then again they aren't employee's they are students. in order to play for the college team they have to make the grades, and attend class and enroll in school.
    this was a bogus ruling by a stacked board of union supporters.
    But do they really go to class, study just as hard, required to make a minimum grade level, and play football, travel all over the country... I've always thought (perhaps incorrectly) that most college athletes may on paper be required to meet grades and minimums to keep their scholarship --- that most of that was just theatre. The college courses and profs pass these kids no matter what they do as long as they're performing on the field. Am I totally wrong? I have to admit I didn't know nor hang out with one full ride scholarship athlete when I went to college so I have no personal information at all.
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    So if your employer didn't actually give you money but instead a bunch of stuff they thought you needed would you feel as if you were being paid?
    only if i agreed to it. you see i don't have to agree to it.

    i wish my employer would pay for my housing, food etc ...

    unfortunately for you they are not employee's the condition on them playing sports to begin with is
    1. getting into college and making the grades for a scholarship. the NCAA has the requirement to get a Div1 scholarship GPA at 2.6.
    2. They have to maintain that GPA through college in order to continue to play.

    they are students. they choose to play football in exchange for free schooling.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    But do they really go to class, study just as hard, required to make a minimum grade level, and play football, travel all over the country... I've always thought (perhaps incorrectly) that most college athletes may on paper be required to meet grades and minimums to keep their scholarship --- that most of that was just theatre. The college courses and profs pass these kids no matter what they do as long as they're performing on the field. Am I totally wrong? I have to admit I didn't know nor hang out with one full ride scholarship athlete when I went to college so I have no personal information at all.
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    But do they really go to class, study just as hard, required to make a minimum grade level, and play football, travel all over the country... I've always thought (perhaps incorrectly) that most college athletes may on paper be required to meet grades and minimums to keep their scholarship --- that most of that was just theatre. The college courses and profs pass these kids no matter what they do as long as they're performing on the field. Am I totally wrong? I have to admit I didn't know nor hang out with one full ride scholarship athlete when I went to college so I have no personal information at all.
    of course they have to attend class. most college have requirements on attendance or you are dropped from the class.
    it depends on the college you attend but they are there.

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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Crovax View Post
    Northwestern will drop football, and as a result no other teams will even attempt it for a long time
    !!! You've GOT to be kidding me!

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