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    Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Problem with your ill informed analogy is that while rare, women DO get prostate cancer. Men can NOT get pregnant.
    LOL. I'm pretty sure they wont get a TURP.

    Let's say testicular cancer than. The analogy holds.
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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Problem with your ill informed analogy is that while rare, women DO get prostate cancer. Men can NOT get pregnant.
    Oh my! No, women don't have a prostate. Unless you're referring to transgendered people?

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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Oh my! No, women don't have a prostate. Unless you're referring to transgendered people?
    They kind of do. It's tiny gland called Skenes gland. Rare cancers can happen.

    Of course, I'm assuming that's what he means, but given his previous postings, that may be a real bad assumption.
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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    They kind of do. It's tiny gland called Skenes gland. Rare cancers can happen.

    Of course, I'm assuming that's what he means, but given his previous postings, that may be a real bad assumption.
    I know they're similar but still not a prostate gland. Some women might not even have a Skenes. I really wouldn't say that women have a prostate gland.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    You give a scholarship to a male athlete, you have to give one to a female athlete. You pay a man, you must pay a woman. The only way around it is to dissolve scholarships, but that's got to be done on a 1-to-1 basis, too. Minor sports will be sacrificed.
    I didn't realize Title 9 said one for one... it is a bit more complex than that, more to do with equal access rather than equal scholarships. These scholarships can still be a vital part of recruiting players in all sports, just the 'bonus' available to pay athletes would depend on what monies that sports brings INTO the school. The top tier sports can offer a bonus while co-ed badmitten not so much.

    It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out...

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    I didn't realize Title 9 said one for one... it is a bit more complex than that, more to do with equal access rather than equal scholarships. These scholarships can still be a vital part of recruiting players in all sports, just the 'bonus' available to pay athletes would depend on what monies that sports brings INTO the school. The top tier sports can offer a bonus while co-ed badmitten not so much.

    It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out...
    No, it's equal scholarships.

    That's why almost every university has a women's soccer team, but not a men's. That's why women's golf scholarships are so numerous, they can't fill them. They've got to offset those football scholarships 1-to-1.

    Trust me, I have daughters, and it's come in quite handy But I still think it's a ridiculous requirement the way it's written.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, it's equal scholarships. That's why almost every university has a women's soccer team, but not a men's. That's why women's golf scholarships are so numerous, they can't fill them. They've got to offset those football scholarships 1-to-1. Trust me, I have daughters, and it's come in quite handy But I still think it's a ridiculous requirement the way it's written.
    We have spoken on many topics many times, I trust but verify... I can't verify your 1 for 1 statement, perhaps you can?

    Still it doesn't knock out scholarships, just any payment to students who participate in the less money making sports, of both sexes...

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    No, it's equal scholarships.

    That's why almost every university has a women's soccer team, but not a men's. That's why women's golf scholarships are so numerous, they can't fill them. They've got to offset those football scholarships 1-to-1.

    Trust me, I have daughters, and it's come in quite handy But I still think it's a ridiculous requirement the way it's written.
    That's another interesting point. What would happen to women's sports and women's athletic scholarships? No one can deny the reality that they bring in less money than the men's sports generally.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's another interesting point. What would happen to women's sports and women's athletic scholarships? No one can deny the reality that they bring in less money than the men's sports generally.
    Who cares?

    Get sports out of colleges. They don't belong there.

    Universities are for education, not games.
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's another interesting point. What would happen to women's sports and women's athletic scholarships? No one can deny the reality that they bring in less money than the men's sports generally.
    Same can be said for a lot of men's sports.

    If actual pay was negotiated, then it would have to apply to all sports. And most schools do not make money off their athletic programs; football and basketball have to fund the other sports. The few really big schools with bigtime football programs make money.

    This would merely lead to the abolishment of baseball, softball, tennis, golf, swimming, soccer, etc.

    Many schools would keep just enough women's teams to meet Title IX requirements, but no more, I believe. Other schools would just get rid of athletics altogether because most football teams barely pay for themselves.

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