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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

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    Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize - CNN.com



    This will change college athletics forever.

    If football players get paid, what about the golf team, the women's soccer team, the water polo team, etc? Will those sports be dropped altogether? If athletes strike, do they forfeit their scholarships? Can a team at one school strike on its own? Do athletes at Texas get a piece of the Longhorn Network revenues? Where is this going to go?

    Funny, I thought getting an entire college education paid for at a major university was quite a reward to begin with, not to mention the unlimited amount of exposure that could lead to a lucrative pro career for the elite players.

    I think this kills college athletics altogether except for football and men's basketball. Problem is, Title IX requires a school to offset the scholarships with women's sports, so it might even kill football and basketball, too at smaller schools.
    Nah. It won't cause a problem. Sure, we'll probably see tuition for a state college hit $55-60k per semester (in state rate) but all that means is that we'll need more federal funding for college. It'll be kind of cool to finish a bachelors with $250k of student loan debt and job opportunities in the $25-35k/yr range.

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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

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    When high schools start making this kind of money from their football teams, they'll probably want to unionize too: College Athletics Revenues and Expenses - ESPN

    RK TEAM TICKETS STUDENTS AWAY_GAMES DONATIONS UNIVERSITY MEDIA_RIGHTS BRANDING TTLREVENUE
    1 Alabama $28,410,419 $0 $5,500 $29,860,400 $4,101,515 $8,825,964 $4,506,056 $123,769,841
    2 Texas $44,691,119 $1,832,229 $318,000 $35,057,421 $0 $191,690 $16,639,171 $120,288,370
    3 Ohio State $38,608,138 $0 $3,750,189 $27,556,385 $0 $15,799,713 $5,015,349 $115,737,022
    4 Florida $21,122,966 $2,578,306 $283,376 $42,630,821 $0 $3,907,635 $10,184,021 $106,607,895
    5 Tennessee $29,403,335 $1,000,000 $250,000 $26,405,309 $0 $6,650,000 $4,154,643 $101,806,196
    6 Michigan $40,258,325 $0 $245,178 $15,138,000 $58,817 $2,025,000 $11,087,101 $99,027,10
    Look at the expenses

    Alabama had $123,370,004 in expenses for a whopping profit of $399,837 or $4,703 per player

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

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    Nah. It won't cause a problem. Sure, we'll probably see tuition for a state college hit $55-60k per semester (in state rate) but all that means is that we'll need more federal funding for college. It'll be kind of cool to finish a bachelors with $250k of student loan debt and job opportunities in the $25-35k/yr range.
    You're right. What's all the hubbub? Just raise taxes, no big deal.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I dont know... It probably also wont be "whatever they wanted". There would probably be some sort of collective bargaining cap/minimum if this law is actually upheld through the appeals process.
    What union ever agreed to a cap on compensation? Hell, these athletes will want a pension after graduation. LOL

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by erod View Post
    what union ever agreed to a cap on compensation? Hell, these athletes will want a pension after graduation. Lol
    nfl, nba, nhl, mls.


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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    nfl, nba, nhl, mls.
    OK, so $125 million per team like the NFL? Revenue is similar already.

    Does the center back for the women's soccer team get the same amount as the quarterback? I'll bet Title IX says she does.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

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    Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize - CNN.com



    This will change college athletics forever.

    If football players get paid, what about the golf team, the women's soccer team, the water polo team, etc? Will those sports be dropped altogether? If athletes strike, do they forfeit their scholarships? Can a team at one school strike on its own? Do athletes at Texas get a piece of the Longhorn Network revenues? Where is this going to go?

    Funny, I thought getting an entire college education paid for at a major university was quite a reward to begin with, not to mention the unlimited amount of exposure that could lead to a lucrative pro career for the elite players.

    I think this kills college athletics altogether except for football and men's basketball. Problem is, Title IX requires a school to offset the scholarships with women's sports, so it might even kill football and basketball, too at smaller schools.
    This is insanity.

    They won't drop sports but it could hurt scholarships. IE no more scholarships if you want to play then you play for free. it is an extracurricular activity. you will have to pay tuition just like everyone else on campus does.

    you are right it pretty much does if the appeal doesn't knock it down.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    OK, so $125 million per team like the NFL? Revenue is similar already.

    Does the center back for the women's soccer team get the same amount as the quarterback? I'll bet Title IX says she does.
    Title IX revolves around strictly sex, no performance. This might open up the door to performance standards.


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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Nah. It won't cause a problem. Sure, we'll probably see tuition for a state college hit $55-60k per semester (in state rate) but all that means is that we'll need more federal funding for college. It'll be kind of cool to finish a bachelors with $250k of student loan debt and job opportunities in the $25-35k/yr range.
    They can't. atheletic money cannot come from educational funds. this is an NCAA ruling. all college atheletics must be self funded by the athletic department to prevent the very thing you said from happening.

    what you will see is season and game tickets go through the roof. which will mean loss of revenue as people can't afford the game tickets.
    but what do you expect from a bunch of union people on a labor board.

    also if they are considered employee's that means any scholarship is therefore considered income and taxable. i sure hope that they have enough money to pay all the taxes.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    what you will see is season and game tickets go through the roof. which will mean loss of revenue as people can't afford the game tickets.
    but what do you expect from a bunch of union people on a labor board.
    Good. Universities need to get back to the business of education not sports.

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