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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    They don't have to play then.
    but what those savvy kids also knew was that they had an option other than playing or not playing, and that was playing as a union member. and that is the option they exercised, which brought us to this very thread
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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    What's starkly obvious is how hive minded liberals see the world.
    in this instance that collective bargaining, authorized under law, and right of assembly, as provided by the Constitution

    you are welcome to argue against those choices. but you will continue to fail
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    This is ridiculous on so many levels, and will be overturned. How in the world is a student an employee of anything at the school. The only transaction I see is a promise to give them an education in return for their participation in sports. What else is there to bargain for? THAT IS THE BARGAIN. You either decide well yes I would like to take that deal or no I will not.


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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    but what those savvy kids also knew was that they had an option other than playing or not playing, and that was playing as a union member. and that is the option they exercised, which brought us to this very thread
    Unionized college athletes. Let that sink in for just a moment.

    Better yet, how about unionized gay Dream Act college athletes who want to smoke weed and get married at halftime.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    This is ridiculous on so many levels, and will be overturned. How in the world is a student an employee of anything at the school. The only transaction I see is a promise to give them an education in return for their participation in sports. What else is there to bargain for? THAT IS THE BARGAIN. You either decide well yes I would like to take that deal or no I will not.


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    Unfortunately, Obama has placed three pro-union members on the Court of Appeals. It will be upheld.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    This is ridiculous on so many levels, and will be overturned. How in the world is a student an employee of anything at the school. The only transaction I see is a promise to give them an education in return for their participation in sports. What else is there to bargain for? THAT IS THE BARGAIN. You either decide well yes I would like to take that deal or no I will not.


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    you have described 'at will' employment
    which is the opposite of union represented employment
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Unionized college athletes. Let that sink in for just a moment.
    good idea
    you could share with us any reasons you find that it is not


    Better yet, how about unionized gay Dream Act college athletes who want to smoke weed and get married at halftime.
    if they can negotiate such terms with their university employer, what is your problem with it
    just as if you could negotiate a similar agreement with your own employer. why would that be a bad thing if the parties agreed it was an acceptable practice?
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you have described 'at will' employment
    which is the opposite of union represented employment
    Again, you're describing 18-year-old athletes, whom often have nowhere near the academic qualifications to attend these schools, unionizing in order to be compensated for playing an amateur sport.

    You think Appalachian State can continue its athletics program in that setting?

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    good idea
    you could share with us any reasons you find that it is not



    if they can negotiate such terms with their university employer, what is your problem with it
    just as if you could negotiate a similar agreement with your own employer. why would that be a bad thing if the parties agreed it was an acceptable practice?
    So you believe the universities are their employer? That's a done deal with you?

    No, the university is their charity provider, especially if we're talking about the rowing or soccer team.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you have described 'at will' employment
    which is the opposite of union represented employment

    Please, are you insulting me? And in the case of a student recruited to play football or any sport in exchange for an education, and "at-will" agreement would mean that the school could effectively say no sorry you suck at football, and rescind their agreement to pay for their college education. Not even remotely true as a college needs a very damn good excuse to expel a student from the college or revoke their scholarship. If the student meets the guidelines of attendance and educational performance it matters little if the player sucks at football, the education will still be honored. If it were "at-will" as you claim, the school could opt out at any time without reason.


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