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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think it's ridiculous. They aren't paid employees. It doesn't make any sense to me at all.
    The university offers compensation (in the form of scholarship money) in exchange for a service (playing football for the university's team). That's the colloquial definition of employment.

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    Does this mean no more scholarships?
    Of course not.

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    What exactly do they hope to accomplish with unionizing I wonder?
    Long term goal would be to use collective bargaining to break the NCAA's ban on college athletes being paid outright to play the game.

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    It's not like they get benefits or wages.
    They get lots of benefits. They would like to have the opportunity to be paid outright for their service.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So does the center back on the women's soccer team make as much as the quarterback of the Alabama football team?
    Let the market decide. My guess is nope.

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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    I've already addressed this objection. So what? Why does that mean there needs to be a prohibition by the NCAA on athletes being paid for their work?
    they are getting payment in the form of education or are you going to continue saying that they don't?

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Let the market decide. My guess is nope.
    they are not employee's so there is no market. they are students first athletes second.

    without grades they don't play.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    The university offers compensation (in the form of scholarship money) in exchange for a service (playing football for the university's team). That's the colloquial definition of employment.
    30 years of court rulings disagree with you.

    there reasoning was. a scholarship offer does not read like an employment. there i no contract of employment. the school offered no job or opened any job pertaining to the position or a promise of employment for the student.

    the fact that the labor board ignored already established law is astounding. this will go to court and they will get overturned.
    they are not employee's.

    they are students. their scholarship offers are dependent on them getting into school taking and passing classes.


    Of course not.



    Long term goal would be to use collective bargaining to break the NCAA's ban on college athletes being paid outright to play the game.



    They get lots of benefits. They would like to have the opportunity to be paid outright for their service.
    school doesn't need to bargain with anyone. they simply pull all scholarship and make football playing voluntary.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Are they going to pay taxes on these scholarships? I think they are going to have too since the scholarship is the source of income that made them paid employees. This could backfire.
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    school doesn't need to bargain with anyone. they simply pull all scholarship and make football playing voluntary.
    And a legal union has the right to picket. Try using a stadium which is blockaded by picketers. No home games, maybe no team of players, meanwhile the coach and staff still need to be paid millions of dollars for doing nothing.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    The university offers compensation (in the form of scholarship money) in exchange for a service (playing football for the university's team). That's the colloquial definition of employment.



    Of course not.



    Long term goal would be to use collective bargaining to break the NCAA's ban on college athletes being paid outright to play the game.



    They get lots of benefits. They would like to have the opportunity to be paid outright for their service.
    Why should that be the case though? They aren't professional athletes, and they are playing to represent their school and, in the case of a scholarship, have already been paid in a way to play. I don't see how this really is of benefit, especially to college sports in general.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    30 years of court rulings disagree with you.

    there reasoning was. a scholarship offer does not read like an employment. there i no contract of employment. the school offered no job or opened any job pertaining to the position or a promise of employment for the student.

    the fact that the labor board ignored already established law is astounding. this will go to court and they will get overturned.
    they are not employee's.

    they are students. their scholarship offers are dependent on them getting into school taking and passing classes.




    school doesn't need to bargain with anyone. they simply pull all scholarship and make football playing voluntary.
    Hmm. A decision by a board of people who are specifically educated in Labor Law vs. a guy too lazy to use the shift key.

    I'm going with the NLRB on this one.
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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    I've already addressed this objection. So what? Why does that mean there needs to be a prohibition by the NCAA on athletes being paid for their work?
    because clearly that means their work isn't that valuable economically and that scholarships plus the potential for future earnings are very good compensation in relationship to work preformed

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