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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Well, I can only go by personal experience of working at a University Hospital and getting a full tuition waiver for school. It was a substantial amount, and none of it was taxable. I was certainly an employee.

    The issue is silly, because if these students will become employees, you know the law will allow them to get scholarships or they will be paid an equivalent amount to offset the scholarship cost (compensaion will be 'grossed up').
    I think you snuck under the radar. The IRS guidelines are quite clear.

    If you receive educational assistance benefits from your employer under an educational assistance program, you can exclude up to $5,250 of those benefits each year. This means your employer should not include those benefits with your wages, tips, and other compensation shown in box 1 of your Form W-2. This also means that you do not have to include the benefits on your income tax return.
    Publication 970 (2013), Tax Benefits for Education

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Do you think college scholarships are unlimited? Every dollar you give to a basketball player who can barely pass high school you take away from an academically gifted poor student.
    This is nonsense. An academically gifted poor student is on a scholarship or grant. If not, they're not trying, especially if they're a minority.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This is nonsense. An academically gifted poor student is on a scholarship or grant. If not, they're not trying, especially if they're a minority.
    Oh. So you believe that college scholarships are unlimited too.
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Oh. So you believe that college scholarships are unlimited too.
    Not unlimited, but certainly a lot more numerous than they're about to be with this ruling.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    The athletes have said they're seeking better medical coverage, concussion testing, four-year scholarships and the possibility of being paid.
    is that such a bad thing
    that now they get to have a seat at the table when these issues are being discussed

    this was quite telling:
    About 15% of men's football, baseball and basketball players said they would have had different majors had they not been athletes. Twelve percent of Division I football players said athletics prevented them from majoring in what they wanted. The average time spent on athletics in-season hovered around 40 hours per week for all three sports, according to the survey.
    That flies in the face of the NCAA 20-hour rule, which states that, no matter the sport, coaches can't take up more than 20 hours of their players' time.
    40 hours a week. not even part-time

    i hope the players are able to do a couple of other things not stated thus far
    1. effect third party arbitration of the player-school issues not solved thru negotiation/mediation; and
    2. eliminate the 'reserve clause' provision which keeps student athletes from changing schools
    those two things certainly helped the major league baseball players
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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    is that such a bad thing
    that now they get to have a seat at the table when these issues are being discussed

    this was quite telling:

    40 hours a week. not even part-time

    i hope the players are able to do a couple of other things not stated thus far
    1. effect third party arbitration of the player-school issues not solved thru negotiation/mediation; and
    2. eliminate the 'reserve clause' provision which keeps student athletes from changing schools
    those two things certainly helped the major league baseball players
    So does the center back on the women's soccer team make as much as the quarterback of the Alabama football team?

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So does the center back on the women's soccer team make as much as the quarterback of the Alabama football team?
    we will learn after the contract negotiations have concluded

    in your opinion, does one deserve a larger stipend than the other ... and why?
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    Re: NLRB rules NW University footballers can unionize

    "Show me the money" this is Chicago union gangsters with the court in their pockets. It is for the illiterates in college for one reason -to play sports. An 18 year old gets injured in his freshman year and collects a cool 10,000,000. Stop screaming about college revenues until you declare the universities do not offer the best places to GET AN EDUCATION. Student first athelete second. If the college kids have it so bad why are lying, cheating and stealng to get in to play sports?You go to higher education in order to learn in order to earn a better income, not stagger in to "show me the money" This is a disgrace!!!.
    It's nothing more than X's and O's.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by Threegoofs View Post
    Do you think college scholarships are unlimited? Every dollar you give to a basketball player who can barely pass high school you take away from an academically gifted poor student.

    And the scholarship thing is a red herring. It wont ever apply because its nonsensical to make a low grade D1 student pay money when you give him a free ride. Thats a fixable glitch, if it even is a glitch.
    no it doesn't that is where you are so wrong. athletic scholarships come from that evil revenue that college generate. in fact all athletic scholarships come from that money.
    it has nothing to do with educational funding.

    you don't know what you are talking about.

    it does apply see the IRS code that you have ignored for 4 times now. the IRS says you are wrong.
    they are not students they would be considered employee's. which means any money received is considered income under IRS guidelines.

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    Re: Labor board: Northwestern University football players can unionize

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    we will learn after the contract negotiations have concluded

    in your opinion, does one deserve a larger stipend than the other ... and why?
    since football basically funds the soccer team and the soccer team brings in either 0 revenue or negative revenue there is no reason that a soccer player should get more or even equal to a football player.

    actually colleges will drop all non-revenue generating sports. which would be soccer, field hockey, soccer, tennis, etc...
    if title XI won't let them then they will just drop all scholarships all together.

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