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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Takes a lot to be a SS agent . . . and that's why they have a lot to lose. I'll have sympathy for him if he's an alcoholic. If he's just a big ole' man-child who binge drinks? Notsomuch. And neither of us know which one he is. But even if he's an alcoholic? That doesn't mean he gets a pass. A SS agent who gets drunk on detail is worse than useless. He's a liability. A danger to his partners and to the people he protects.
    SS don't hire "big ole man childs". My bet is he is a college educated ex military officer or at the very least a NCO with a high degree of training. And, clearly a problem.

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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Err what does this have to do with Obama? There were also quite a number of scandals under Bush when it came to the SS..
    Because Obama is POTUS presently. And he's supposed to be responsible for everything that happens while he is POTUS. Even hurricanes and national disasters.

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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    A Secret Service agent found drunk by staff at a Dutch hotel was recalled to the U.S. along with two of his colleagues, the day before President Barack Obama was set to arrive in the Netherlands.

    Word of another scandal to hit the elite agency came as the president was midway through a weeklong, four-country trip to Europe and Saudi Arabia. The Secret Service said the three agents were benched on Sunday for "disciplinary reasons" but declined to elaborate.

    The Secret Service was alerted to the situation by U.S. Embassy officials in the Netherlands after hotel staff reported finding the highly intoxicated agent in the hotel, said a person familiar with the situation, who wasn't authorized to discuss the alleged behavior on the record and demanded anonymity. The other two agents were deemed complicit because they didn't intervene despite being in a position to assist the drunken agent or tamp down his behavior, the person said.

    "It wasn't like a big, crazy party," the person said.

    The three agents were part of the president's Counter Assault Team, but have been placed on administrative leave, according to The Washington Post, which first reported the disciplinary action. The newspaper said one of the agents was a "team leader.".....snip~

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    Well at least he's holding the people directly responsible for HIS safety accountable.


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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    SS don't hire "big ole man childs". My bet is he is a college educated ex military officer or at the very least a NCO with a high degree of training. And, clearly a problem.
    If he was the Team Leader.....might explain why the others didn't say anything.

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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think we have a right to expect that the people who protect the President of the United States (and all the others they are charged with protecting) are above reproach and professional in every aspect of their lives.


    I hope at least the DRUNK is fired.



    We certainly have a right to expect better behavior, but it looks like what we're getting is more bad behavior.

    Maybe the Secret Service needs to be a little more selective about who it hires?

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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think you will find that when an agent is protecting the president, he's never off-duty. It's a huge deal. Huge. A SS agent is privy to the President's movements, security precautions being taken, schedules, etc., etc. I have no idea how you can say that. Lordy.
    For starters, the president wasn't even in country at the time. Second, he was oitside his area of operations, so he was obviously off duty.

    It appears to me that they've been looking for a reason to **** can this guy and they finally found one.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If he's off duty, he should be able to do what he wants, within reason.
    Getting drunk, even real drunk isn't that big of a deal.



    It is if it causes you to lose your job.

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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    If he was the Team Leader.....might explain why the others didn't say anything.
    Thin blue line.

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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    It is if it causes you to lose your job.
    Your employer can't make up the rules as they go. Obviously, these agents were aware that they were doing anything wrong. Looks like they were just doing what agents have done before, but for some reason they got gigged for it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Secret Service pulls 3 agents from Obama trip

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I think we have a right to expect that the people who protect the President of the United States (and all the others they are charged with protecting) are above reproach and professional in every aspect of their lives.

    I hope at least the DRUNK is fired.
    Generally, I believe that people should have private lives that allow them to do whatever they choose on their own time as long as it doesn't adversely affect their job performance. The Secret Service, however, is unique in many ways and clearly when you're outside the country preparing for a state visit you're really on the clock 24/7 - I wouldn't be surprised if they're paid as if they were on active duty 24/7. In addition, such behaviour sets a person up for being blackmailed or compromised if the information gets into the wrong hands.

    The other two agents who are being disciplined for not controlling the other agent, that's a little more sketchy for me. Even if they were in positions of authority over the other agent, it's hard to see how short of physical action you can stop or control a guy who is or wants to get drunk. If they didn't report it and should have - okay - but stopping the other guy, I'm not so good with that level of responsibility.
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