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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The USA violated Ukraine sovereignty by spending $5 billion to train and support an insurgency to get their man (Yats, Victoria Nuland conversation) installed as leader to get him to move Ukraine under the EU/NATO umbrella. Explain to me how the USA found three (3) Billionaires to be the new leaders instead of three "heroes of the Revolution." These three were operating out of the US Embassy in Kiev during the protests. Stop reading the US Mainstream News and watching the boob tube and try reading some foreign news stories about Ukraine on the Internet.
    Your messages are just bizarre. You declare Russian military occupation and conquest is heroic, while cursing non-military actions of your own country. Obviously you want the white race to go to war - literally - against the mongrel races.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Putin is on a roll and at this point with this pres all we can do is stand by and watch. It's like being charged by a grizzly bear, the bear is in control of the situation and all you can do is hope it's a bluff charge.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Well, everyone who claimed this wasn't a military conquest of Ukraine was just proven wrong. But they will just change their mantra to fit the situation.

    Countries better start building nuclear weapons and FAST. Biological weapons, chemical weapons and dirty bombs in the interim. Its every country for itself now.
    Uh... how did you come to that conclusion?

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Of course you do. He's a racial segregationist as are your messages. Putin is your great white hope to save the white race's genetic purity and all that crap.

    You make no secret of your hatred of the United States because of racial desegregation. Your malcontent messages are becoming boring.
    You're not a closet rascist, you're an out front rascist. I don't give a damn what color Putin is. Your entire post is a blatant lie. If you don't know anything, I guess that is all you have to work with, eh? I don't hate the USA, I'm a patriot that wants teh USA to defend the IDEALS it professes to believe in and defend. I despise the Empire and Imperialist and Exceptionalism that the Media has chosen as the new IDEALS. I want freedom, democracy, liberty, and justice, not meddling in foreign OIL geographies and Corporate opportunities.
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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    The USA violated Ukraine sovereignty by spending $5 billion to train and support an insurgency to get their man (Yats, Victoria Nuland conversation) installed as leader to get him to move Ukraine under the EU/NATO umbrella. Explain to me how the USA found three (3) Billionaires to be the new leaders instead of three "heroes of the Revolution." These three were operating out of the US Embassy in Kiev during the protests. Stop reading the US Mainstream News and watching the boob tube and try reading some foreign news stories about Ukraine on the Internet.
    They do have the heroes of the revolution, they were the leaders of the opposition form prison not the U.S. embassy. Russia poisoned the democratically elected president that tired to get closer to the EU. I don't watch US mainstream media, thank you very much, I also have never watched TV news.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. Enlighten me.
    That was Neville Chamberlain's response to Hitlers' invasion of Czechoslovakia, nominally to protect ethnic Russians who were being "mistreated" in the Sudentland. Vacillating and weak Western response convinced Hitler that he could pretty much take what he wanted and, arguably, led to his decision to invade Poland, starting WWII.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    He, (Putin) probably plans on swallowing up the Ukraine either in whole, or in bits and pieces, and turning it into Russia. He's acting like Russia will be the bully in the area.

    Not much the USA can do about it, unless Americans want to send father, sons, mother and daughters off to another war we cannot afford. I have to believe most Americans are tired of wars by now.
    You're not a very good poker player, are you?

    We would not have to send anyone to war to break Russia's back over this. All we'd have to do is put a limited number of weapons into the hands of Russia's enemies in Eastern Europe and the Ukraine.

    Your foreign policy - like some many on the forum - is very simplistic and it found in 1 word: "Retreat!"

    However, this seems very clearly a deal between the USA and Russia. They get East Europe back. We get all the Southern former Soviet bloc countries. Cold war super powers dividing out the rest of the world.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That was Neville Chamberlain's response to Hitlers' invasion of Czechoslovakia, nominally to protect ethnic Russians who were being "mistreated" in the Sudentland. Vacillating and weak Western response convinced Hitler that he could pretty much take what he wanted and, arguably, led to his decision to invade Poland, starting WWII.

    I have to disagree with that, Mr. Will.
    "Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough."
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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Well people are saying he will not go after the rest of Ukraine but after Transnistria, which is a breakaway region of Moldova. I don't think anyone would care too much about that but it give Putin access to the rest of Eastern Europe. My issue is that there areas are not connected to Russia in anyway, they depend on their neighbouring nations, it would be like the U.S. annexing parts of Indonesia or something, it is highly impractical for logistical reasons.
    He is going farther. You watch.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    I have to disagree with that, Mr. Will.
    Actually his first "invasion" was Rhineland.

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