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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    In complete truth. Putin was clever enough to capture the Fleet without firing a shot. He scuttled two Russian vessels to block the access channels and it appears to have been a complete success. No casualties. No snipers. No firebombs. No blood. Could Putin be the "good guy" in this embroglio? I think he is.
    Of course you do. He's a racial segregationist as are your messages. Putin is your great white hope to save the white race's genetic purity and all that crap.

    You make no secret of your hatred of the United States because of racial desegregation. Your malcontent messages are becoming boring.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    He will have to be stopped at some point. Now? Or when he is too powerful?
    Let's wait until he's not playing in his own backyard.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    I don't see how violating Ukraine's sovereignty and invading it makes Putin the good guy, he would be the good guy if he let Ukraine join the EU and choose it's own path.
    He, (Putin) probably plans on swallowing up the Ukraine either in whole, or in bits and pieces, and turning it into Russia. He's acting like Russia will be the bully in the area.

    Not much the USA can do about it, unless Americans want to send father, sons, mother and daughters off to another war we cannot afford. I have to believe most Americans are tired of wars by now.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Let's wait until he's not playing in his own backyard.
    ..... Maggie, are you aware of the history of that phrase?

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Let's wait until he's not playing in his own backyard.
    That was said in 1939 also.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ..... Maggie, are you aware of the history of that phrase?
    No. Enlighten me.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    He, (Putin) probably plans on swallowing up the Ukraine either in whole, or in bits and pieces, and turning it into Russia. He's acting like Russia will be the bully in the area.

    Not much the USA can do about it, unless Americans want to send father, sons, mother and daughters off to another war we cannot afford. I have to believe most Americans are tired of wars by now.
    And Putin knows it. He has a free hand to expand Russian interests any time any where now.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    I don't see how violating Ukraine's sovereignty and invading it makes Putin the good guy, he would be the good guy if he let Ukraine join the EU and choose it's own path.
    The USA violated Ukraine sovereignty by spending $5 billion to train and support an insurgency to get their man (Yats, Victoria Nuland conversation) installed as leader to get him to move Ukraine under the EU/NATO umbrella. Explain to me how the USA found three (3) Billionaires to be the new leaders instead of three "heroes of the Revolution." These three were operating out of the US Embassy in Kiev during the protests. Stop reading the US Mainstream News and watching the boob tube and try reading some foreign news stories about Ukraine on the Internet.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Once again the cold war is being turned back on. Russia gets to subjugate East Europe and the USA/West gets the former South Soviet bloc countries, with the USA, the EU and China dividing up the oil of the Persian Gulf Region.

    At that same time, Americans will be raging at the methods the NSA and Department of Homeland Security use to stop the ever increasing terrorism attacks. And when they happen again the USA, EU countries and Russia will declare there is no reason for anyone to attack us - when it would be more accurate to define them as minor counter-attacks compared to takeover and subjugation of their countries and the deaths, imprisonments and occupation of their countries.

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    Re: In military rout, Russia seizes 51 Ukrainian ships in Crimea

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    He, (Putin) probably plans on swallowing up the Ukraine either in whole, or in bits and pieces, and turning it into Russia. He's acting like Russia will be the bully in the area.

    Not much the USA can do about it, unless Americans want to send father, sons, mother and daughters off to another war we cannot afford. I have to believe most Americans are tired of wars by now.
    Well people are saying he will not go after the rest of Ukraine but after Transnistria, which is a breakaway region of Moldova. I don't think anyone would care too much about that but it give Putin access to the rest of Eastern Europe. My issue is that there areas are not connected to Russia in anyway, they depend on their neighbouring nations, it would be like the U.S. annexing parts of Indonesia or something, it is highly impractical for logistical reasons.

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