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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    That's not what I say, but that's what the local government that let those people live in that dangerous location did.

    None of those people had to die. They are dead because their local government didn't do it's job.
    What about Calif letting people live right on top of known fault lines or Nawlins that let people live below sea level or NY letting people live on sand bars in the ocean or Mississippi letting people live in flood zones or........... People want to live where they want to live and in reality gov can or should do very little if anything to stop them. I live way out in the woods with one way in one way out. In a big fire I would lose everything maybe even my life, oh well.

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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What about Calif letting people live right on top of known fault lines or Nawlins that let people live below sea level or NY letting people live on sand bars in the ocean or Mississippi letting people live in flood zones or........... People want to live where they want to live and in reality gov can or should do very little if anything to stop them. I live way out in the woods with one way in one way out. In a big fire I would lose everything maybe even my life, oh well.
    No place is totally safe. You're no doubt a lot safer where you are than you would be in West LA, or in most parts of Oakland.

    What people need to do is take responsibility for their choices. Here, the county, or maybe the state, has imposed a $150 a year fee for people living in the fire prone chaparral. The people with their fancy houses there had a fit, why should I pay extra to live here? The county (Forest Service) has the obligation to keep my home safe, I pay taxes too, whine, whine. Live in a risky place, pay for the risk.
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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No place is totally safe. You're no doubt a lot safer where you are than you would be in West LA, or in most parts of Oakland.

    What people need to do is take responsibility for their choices. Here, the county, or maybe the state, has imposed a $150 a year fee for people living in the fire prone chaparral. The people with their fancy houses there had a fit, why should I pay extra to live here? The county (Forest Service) has the obligation to keep my home safe, I pay taxes too, whine, whine. Live in a risky place, pay for the risk.
    Generally speaking the most desirable places to live also have the highest risk from natural disasters except of course people that live in flat ugly tornado ally, they deserve to die really.

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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How is their local government going to stop a mudslide?
    Not let them build there in the first place?
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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    How is their local government going to stop a mudslide?



    In this case it probably couldn't.

    But it could have stopped people from living in it's path.

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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What about Calif letting people live right on top of known fault lines or Nawlins that let people live below sea level or NY letting people live on sand bars in the ocean or Mississippi letting people live in flood zones or...........
    People want to live where they want to live and in reality gov can or should do very little if anything to stop them.
    I live way out in the woods with one way in one way out. In a big fire I would lose everything maybe even my life, oh well.



    People all over the USA build homes where it's not safe, then when the inevitable happens they go crying to the government.

    I vote that we tell them to scratch their ass.

    Why should everyone else in the USA reward their bad judgement?

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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    People all over the USA build homes where it's not safe, then when the inevitable happens they go crying to the government.

    I vote that we tell them to scratch their ass.

    Why should everyone else in the USA reward their bad judgement?
    Well, you can say that about pretty much any area in the US. Why build in Texas where wildfires will destroy homes and Perry goes crying to the Feds over aid? Why build within 20-50 miles of any major river, because they can flow over?
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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by peteeu View Post
    well, you can say that about pretty much any area in the us. Why build in texas where wildfires will destroy homes and perry goes crying to the feds over aid? Why build within 20-50 miles of any major river, because they can flow over?



    I don't care where anyone builds their house, but if they build it next to a known landslide area they don't need to come to me looking for help when it gets smashed and buried.

    Eventually everyone needs to stand up, take responsibility, and pay for their own bad decisions.

    What's wrong with that idea?
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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    People all over the USA build homes where it's not safe, then when the inevitable happens they go crying to the government.

    I vote that we tell them to scratch their ass.

    Why should everyone else in the USA reward their bad judgement?
    I agree that people that build in unsafe areas should not run to the gov for help when a wave or flood washes away their home or in my case if everything I own burns up in a forest fire. I was against all the help we gave those people in NY that built on a freakin sand bar.

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    Re: 14 dead; 176 reports of people missing in mile-wide mudslide

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I agree that people that build in unsafe areas should not run to the gov for help when a wave or flood washes away their home or in my case if everything I own burns up in a forest fire. I was against all the help we gave those people in NY that built on a freakin sand bar.
    Exactly. That's what home insurance is for. No place is totally safe.
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