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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

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    Oh I think most of us want to battle it, but few of us do. The problem is that most of us want to battle it for different reasons. You need a collective to fight it.

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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

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    And those of us who do buck the system, and try to fight the establishment alone are branded as troublemakers.
    "Troublemaker" is the nicest thing I've been called for trying to put some common sense up against the paradigm.

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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer | Fox News

    It's times like these I wish parents would/could take a stand. And I wish 15 other classmates would shave their heads. The stand I wish the little girl's parents would let her take would be to NOT attend school until the rule is changed. How simple would it be to amend the rule to allow shaved heads when one student in the school has lost his/hers due to cancer??

    Easy-Peasy.

    I am positively SICK of these academicians who don't have brain cells.
    That is rather odd behavior of the school people and would be a good reason to mistrust them. Parents should take their kids out.

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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    There's nothing wrong with picking your battles. When you battle the establishment, you need to accept that your perceived benefit will surpass the actual cost.

    If it was worth getting sent home for making a statement that's contradictory to school policy, then she won.
    It depends on the schools reasoning for not allowing shaved heads. Is it to prevent the advocating of skin heads or a simple dress code policy?

    I assume when a rule is broken the child is sent to the office? In which case after hearing her reasoning, I would probably have shaved my own head in support.

    Some rules have few excuses for being broken but mitigating circumstances should always be considered. Blind obedience, leads to plain old blindness.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

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    But nobody wants to battle the establishment anymore, Gip. Or the ones that do, like this little girl, are left out, battling the establishment by themselves. It's rare when you can find somebody that will help you out, somebody that will stick up for you.

    Pardon me for being so cynical. I am going through something right now that has to do with battling the establishment, and I'm just tired of people whining behind closed doors, and then refusing to have the stones to stand up with me when it counts.

    But, as I have said a million times to Medusa, thread is not about me. I apologize.
    I admire people who stand up to bullies and standing up to the establishment is, in many cases, the same thing. Don't know the details of your situation and don't want to derail the thread but go get'em.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    I am so glad that my kid is grown. Today's schools with all of the strict policies, like ", said the dress code "was created to promote safety, uniformity, and a non-distracting environment for the school's students
    Dress codes are nothing new. In fact, policies tend to be less strict today than they were decades ago. Examples like this one are the exception to the rule.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It depends on the schools reasoning for not allowing shaved heads. Is it to prevent the advocating of skin heads or a simple dress code policy?

    I assume when a rule is broken the child is sent to the office? In which case after hearing her reasoning, I would probably have shaved my own head in support.

    Some rules have few excuses for being broken but mitigating circumstances should always be considered. Blind obedience, leads to plain old blindness.
    Stealing bread to feed your family is still stealing.

    It's part of the dress code. Dress codes are conformist, boring, soul-crushing, and borderline fascist in nature. They also preserve specific values, as well as limit distraction. Kids don't know enough to determine which rules they can follow and which they cannot. Hell, I'm not sure most adults have the acuity to do that.

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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    It should be noted I think that the parents didn't know their kid was going to do this. She did it on her own according to the report. I doubt the kid knew about the rule and was just doing something powerfully beautiful from innocence. I believe the school is taking that into account.

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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Stealing bread to feed your family is still stealing.

    It's part of the dress code. Dress codes are conformist, boring, soul-crushing, and borderline fascist in nature. They also preserve specific values, as well as limit distraction. Kids don't know enough to determine which rules they can follow and which they cannot. Hell, I'm not sure most adults have the acuity to do that.
    It's not if the owner doesn't press charges. You can have strict adherence to the letter of the law, but then you'd be breaking the spirit of the law.

    My parents loosely gave me a dress code, because they couldn't afford name brands when I was younger. They didn't attempt to overly control my direction but they did allow for their own opinions. Rules are mostly for behavioral justice, not to enforce a rigid adherence to mindless conformity. Though I do agree with a certain amount of control over a minors expression, until they know more.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    It's not if the owner doesn't press charges. You can have strict adherence to the letter of the law, but then you'd be breaking the spirit of the law.

    My parents loosely gave me a dress code, because they couldn't afford name brands when I was younger. They didn't attempt to overly control my direction but they did allow for their own opinions. Rules are mostly for behavioral justice, not to enforce a rigid adherence to mindless conformity. Though I do agree with a certain amount of control over a minors expression, until they know more.
    Then it's not stealing. It's giving. Denial of pressing charges is essentially consent.

    I really don't believe in the concept of fascist parents or "helicopter moms", but kids do need some structure. You can tell who the "hands-off" parents were, because their kids grow up to think that rules don't pertain to them.

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