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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Why is this hard? If you don't like the rules, do not send your kid to the school.
    Or force the school to change. Yes one could take the child out of the school and find another.

    So can we apply your logic of no tolerance to the rules to all laws or rules?

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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    I'd be interested in hearing the school's mission statement and then holding the administration accountable if their actions against this girl are dischordant with their stated mission. Policies and procedures are only valuable or useful when they support the stated goal of the institution they are upholding. On the occasions that policies become detrimental to the accomplishment of the stated goal of the school, that is when a good administration recognizes the discrepency and allows the goal of the institution to supercede the policies on the books.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I certainly hope they do not care about the sick child. It is not their responsibility. Their responsibility is to their students and parents who enrolled their children in a school expecting certain standards that the school advertised. That includes a strict dress code.
    It is noted you did not reply to being asked then should no tolerance be applied to all rules and laws. Why is that?

    One could conclude that if a student dies, the school teachers and administrators have no role to play in such an event. Like I stated, the school missed an opportunity of a life lesson.

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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Clearly everyone on DP is clicking the link because it wasn't responding for me. I'm generally one to agree with this sentiment, but I wasn't able to see if there was an appeals procedure or whether there are avenues of exception (doctor's note, etc.). I can certainly understand if they were trying to avoid having distracting hair styles, but to have no hair due to shaving seems to be outside that sentiment.
    It took me several tries to get through to website. It is being pounded. She did not shave her head for medical treatment, nor apparently did she talk to the school in advance.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Or force the school to change. Yes one could take the child out of the school and find another.

    So can we apply your logic of no tolerance to the rules to all laws or rules?
    Good luck with forcing the school to change. Parents are sending their kids to this school for a reason.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer | Fox News

    It's times like these I wish parents would/could take a stand. And I wish 15 other classmates would shave their heads. The stand I wish the little girl's parents would let her take would be to NOT attend school until the rule is changed. How simple would it be to amend the rule to allow shaved heads when one student in the school has lost his/hers due to cancer??

    Easy-Peasy.

    I am positively SICK of these academicians who don't have brain cells.
    Really quite astonishing, if you ask me. And yes, the weird universe that the average academic's mind resides in is far removed from the universe of normal, everyday people.

    1. Is there an epidemic of "skin-heads" in Colorado?

    2. No wonder kids in Colorado are prone to shooting up schools - the stress of having to conform into a progressive robot must be incredible.

    3. Far be it from the school to take this situation, and the two students, as a teaching moment to inform all the students in the school about neuroblastoma and other childhood cancers, about how they're treated and the side-effects, like hair loss, and about good things other supportive people do like shaving their heads to donate hair for the creation of wigs for those going through such treatment or to raise money or just raise awareness.

    4. I appreciate schools may not want "distractions" but do they need to create a society of automatons, perfectly formed to be future teachers union shop stewarts and union leaders?

    It's no wonder that children act out in society when they're away from school - there is little or no ability for individual expression to be encouraged or tolerated in a school environment.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Good luck with forcing the school to change. Parents are sending their kids to this school for a reason.
    Still no answer to my question.

    "But in a special meeting, school officials decided to let her come back to school Tuesday"
    http://time.com/#36892/girl-who-shav...ng-dress-code/

    "However, she added exceptions could be made “under exigent and extraordinary circumstance"

    See, the school can bend the rule. Things should never be so black/white that exceptions cannot be made.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    School handbook can be found here: http://www.caprockacademy.org/wp-con...nal-draft1.pdf

    Page 33: no shaved heads. Pretty clear cut(get it?). I think it is time people atop being outraged all the time. School is public, but not one kids are required to attend. School has a special ruleset. Student ignores rules. Student is punished. People spaz out that a school enforces its rules.
    There's also an old adage that "rules are made to be broken" - I also find it remarkable that a proud liberal would be so dead set against individual expression, particularly when that expression means no harm and does no harm to anyone.

    This is perhaps one of those times where the conservative, the one who believes in personal freedoms, takes a more liberal position than the actual, progressive liberal.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    It is a charter school. If you do not like their policies, don't send your kids there.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    She could've asked permission from the school. This isn't public school; there are distinct rules.
    The situation is absolutely ridiculous within the contextual details, and the school ought not have reacted or taken the actions as it did. They're in the wrong to suspend and need to rectify the situation. Or at least everyone with a few seconds of reflection will believe that. Now the school is going to be dragged through the national media, and the administration's life is going to turn into a media hell for the next week or two, while the school's ability to function is going to be in detriment while it's embroiled in controversy.

    Often there's a tendency for people (which is why I copied you two) to react in a manner that can be defined as "Rules are rules!" i.e., "But the charter school has rules!!" ... and that type of thinking is great and all. Rule-making is often a good idea. However it's never the best idea, because there will always be exceptions or overriding circumstances where rules cannot (and should not) be followed. This is a great example of such.



    Edit: ... and there we go. The school finds out that the administration does have more than a couple brain cells to rub together.

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Still no answer to my question.

    "But in a special meeting, school officials decided to let her come back to school Tuesday"
    http://time.com/#36892/girl-who-shav...ng-dress-code/

    "However, she added exceptions could be made “under exigent and extraordinary circumstance"

    See, the school can bend the rule. Things should never be so black/white that exceptions cannot be made.
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    Re: Girl, 9, barred from school for shaving head to support friend with cancer

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    It is noted you did not reply to being asked then should no tolerance be applied to all rules and laws. Why is that?

    One could conclude that if a student dies, the school teachers and administrators have no role to play in such an event. Like I stated, the school missed an opportunity of a life lesson.
    See, this is one of those totally avoidable situations. Let us imagine a scenario: girl wants to shave head to express support for friend with cancer(sound familiar? Just like what did happen, until...). Girl, knowing school has strict dress code and forbids shaved heads, goes to school administrators first. Now the administrators can either say, as they actually did when she came to school with a shaved head, you will need to wear a wig while actually at school, or they can say, well, you where willing to work with us so we will make an exception.

    What actually happened is the girl just ignored the rule and did as she pleased, which left the school with fewer options. Simply being proactive on her part would have solved things. This should be an important lesson for the girl. Too bad people are too busy being outraged...
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