• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Obama to Call for End to N.S.A.’s Bulk Data Collection

TheDemSocialist

Gradualist
DP Veteran
Joined
Apr 13, 2011
Messages
34,951
Reaction score
16,311
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Socialist
WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is preparing to unveil a legislative proposal for a far-reaching overhaul of the National Security Agency’s once-secret bulk phone records program in a way that — if approved by Congress — would end the aspect that has most alarmed privacy advocates since its existence was leaked last year, according to senior administration officials.Under the proposal, they said, N.S.A. would end its systematic collection of data about Americans’ calling habits. The records would stay in the hands of phone companies, which would not be required to retain the data for any longer than they normally would. And the N.S.A. could obtain specific records only with permission from a judge, using a new kind of court order.
In a speech in January, President Obama said he wanted to get the N.S.A. out of the business of collecting call records in bulk while preserving the program’s capabilities. He acknowledged, however, that there was no easy way to do so, and had instructed Justice Department and intelligence officials to come up with a plan by March 28 — Friday — when the current court order authorizing the program expires.
As part of the proposal, the administration has decided to ask the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to renew the program as it currently exists for at least one more 90-day cycle, senior administration officials said. But under the plan the administration has developed and now advocates, the officials said, it would later undergo major changes.


Read more @: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/us/obama-to-seek-nsa-curb-on-call-data.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1

Hell yes! :applaud This is definaltey a step in the right direction. Its clear that the people of this country what these kind of practices ended. Its definaltey a start, but its not perfect. I expect most people accept this as a definate step in the right direction.
 
He could put a halt to it, with a phone call. You people still haven't figured that out!...lol!!!
 
So if we have another 911 where we are taken by surprise will the same people that don't want this complain there wasn't enough done?
 
He could put a halt to it, with a phone call. You people still haven't figured that out!...lol!!!

I don't think you realize how much power and control our intelligence agencies have. They've told our president's more than once to go pound sand.
 
I don't think you realize how much power and control our intelligence agencies have. They've told our president's more than once to go pound sand.

You do realize that the NSA works directly for The President...right? All he has to do, is pick up the phone, give the director instructions and if the director tells him to, "pound sand", Obama fires his ass.

If we had a real leader, he would exert his power appropriately, but...
 
More transparent pandering in an attempt to keep the senate. Why do you think it took him 5 years to posture as he now is?
 
More transparent pandering in an attempt to keep the senate. Why do you think it took him 5 years to posture as he now is?

What's funny--or sad--is that if he actually puts a stop the NSA surveillance, all the Obama disciples will tell us how great he is for putting a stop to the NSA surveillance; all in the face of adversity, of course.
 
Now is this a keep your doctor kind of call or a close gitmo kind of call....oh wait maybe it's the Libyan consulate call?
 
Now is this a keep your doctor kind of call or a close gitmo kind of call....oh wait maybe it's the Libyan consulate call?

I think it's more of a, "red line", kinda call.
 
What's funny--or sad--is that if he actually puts a stop the NSA surveillance, all the Obama disciples will tell us how great he is for putting a stop to the NSA surveillance; all in the face of adversity, of course.

These guys have zero credibility.
 
I don't think you realize how much power and control our intelligence agencies have. They've told our president's more than once to go pound sand.

What agency or director has ever told a sitting U.S. President to "go pound sand"?
 
What agency or director has ever told a sitting U.S. President to "go pound sand"?

Oh, you know!...that one, a few years back...you remember.
 
He could put a halt to it, with a phone call. You people still haven't figured that out!...lol!!!

He absolutely could since he's Commander in Chief and the N.S.A. falls under DOD authority. Even if the N.S.A. didn't fall under DOD control, the President is the highest executive power in the United States.
 
He absolutely could since he's Commander in Chief and the N.S.A. falls under DOD authority. Even if the N.S.A. didn't fall under DOD control, the President is the highest executive power in the United States.

Obama is too concerned with issuing orders that are outside his realm of authority.
 
Take a fair criticism about Obama being able to pretty much do this himself already and go full retard with it...
 
You do realize that the NSA works directly for The President...right? All he has to do, is pick up the phone, give the director instructions and if the director tells him to, "pound sand", Obama fires his ass.

If we had a real leader, he would exert his power appropriately, but...

More partisan ODS by the usual in this thread.
 
Well, as a privacy-minded conservative, I applaud the president for at least addressing it.

And I utterly despise what this thread tells me about my fellow conservatives.

IF OBAMA BYPASSES CONGRESS TO END THIS PRACTICE HOW IS THAT NOT THE ACT OF A SO-CALLED TYRANT YOU GUYS ALWAYS RANT ABOUT?
 
Well, as a privacy-minded conservative, I applaud the president for at least addressing it.

And I utterly despise what this thread tells me about my fellow conservatives.

IF OBAMA BYPASSES CONGRESS TO END THIS PRACTICE HOW IS THAT NOT THE ACT OF A SO-CALLED TYRANT YOU GUYS ALWAYS RANT ABOUT?

If he believes its wrong, he should put his money where his mouth is. If he wants to go through congress, whats keeping him? Why is he doing this half decade into his presidency?
 
Addressing it and ending this program would be the right thing to do. However, that is not enough. Something should be put into place preventing this type of surveillance again. If not, what is stopping him from ending this program and then immediately starting a different program with the same goals and agendas?
 
Back
Top Bottom