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Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

Ockham said:
Report: Chris Christie?s Bridgegate probe clears gov - Lucy McCalmont - POLITICO.com


Surely just one important step showing the Gov didn't lie (unlike our many other prominent Washington politicians who have). The Christie haters will continue to hate, the Christie supporters will be rewarded for their steadfast support. The media will likely not say much since this denies a smoking gun and the demise of a rising star Republican. Whether or not Christie runs in 2016 probably hasn't changed - from a political standpoint the damage was done; mission accomplished.
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I'm not going to disagree with the findings, as they might very well be true. But this is a report commissioned by Christie, conducted by a law firm with close ties to the Christie administration, that asserts that there was no definite evidence that Christie knew; although it doesn't seek to answer if these sorts of things were condoned by Christie.

Replace Christie with Obama and tell me that you'd accept a similar report.
 
Mithros said:
I'm not going to disagree with the findings, as they might very well be true. But this is a report commissioned by Christie, conducted by a law firm with close ties to the Christie administration, that asserts that there was no definite evidence that Christie knew; although it doesn't seek to answer if these sorts of things were condoned by Christie.

Replace Christie with Obama and tell me that you'd accept a similar report.
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Read my post #67.
 
sangha said:
This is another example of you seeing what you want to see.

Every leftist that I know of who knows about the CSM, loves it.
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Christian Science Monitor?
 
eohrnberger said:
The real issue here is what was told to the people. Obama and his admin rode that Internet Video meme and the 'Spontaneous Demonstration' meme as long as was humanly possible, even though they already knew from the CIA that it was a planned and coordinated terrorist attack.

This misleading of the people may acceptable to some, and granted, as we have grown to know this president better, it becomes less and less of any sort of surprise. But I hardly think that it is acceptable, as do many others.
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Not to go off topic, but the video played a huge role in the attack on Bengazi. There is this notion among far too many that it was a vast preplanned terrorist attack orchestrated by al Qaeda. But that has consistently been debunked by every single intelligence report.

Bengazi was loosely coordinated attack by many disparate groups and individuals quickly planned under the cover and in support of protests in Egypt over a YouTube video. The facts are very similar to those presented by Susan Rice in the immediate aftermath of the attack. The only lies for political gain have been produced by Issa and the Republicans in an attempt to damage Hillary.
 
Ockham said:
Read my post #67.
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How about your post #1
Ockham said:
Report: Chris Christie?s Bridgegate probe clears gov - Lucy McCalmont - POLITICO.com
Surely just one important step showing the Gov didn't lie (unlike our many other prominent Washington politicians who have). The Christie haters will continue to hate, the Christie supporters will be rewarded for their steadfast support. The media will likely not say much since this denies a smoking gun and the demise of a rising star Republican. Whether or not Christie runs in 2016 probably hasn't changed - from a political standpoint the damage was done; mission accomplished.
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Yawn.
 
eohrnberger said:
The real issue here is what was told to the people. Obama and his admin rode that Internet Video meme and the 'Spontaneous Demonstration' meme as long as was humanly possible, even though they already knew from the CIA that it was a planned and coordinated terrorist attack.

This misleading of the people may acceptable to some, and granted, as we have grown to know this president better, it becomes less and less of any sort of surprise. But I hardly think that it is acceptable, as do many others.
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So you're view is they pretended it was a spontaneous demonstration though knowing better...because?
Americans wouldn't re-elect a president after a terrorist attack overseas on an embassy?
Hell in 2004 we re-elected a President after a major terrorists attack on US soil.
We re-elected Clinton after overseas terrorist attacks. How about terrorism under other presidents?

I guess it's a little far fetched that the President would actually run a cover up on something with so little to gain from a cover up. I guess it would be a little more plausible if there was something he had to gain from it.
 
iliveonramen said:
So you're view is they pretended it was a spontaneous demonstration though knowing better...because?
Americans wouldn't re-elect a president after a terrorist attack overseas on an embassy?
Hell in 2004 we re-elected a President after a major terrorists attack on US soil.
We re-elected Clinton after overseas terrorist attacks. How about terrorism under other presidents?

I guess it's a little far fetched that the President would actually run a cover up on something with so little to gain from a cover up. I guess it would be a little more plausible if there was something he had to gain from it.
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Of course he wanted to protect his election chances, the same way that he wanted to protect his 'Al Qaeda is defeated' campaign meme. He was trading one false meme for another in the hopes that the electorate wouldn't look any closer, and they didn't.
 
rocket88 said:
That's the House's investigation. The investigation referenced in the OP was Christie's internal investigation of himself. Obama's internal investigation showed no administration wrongdoing, or probably would if there is such thing.

Yet, you only accept one of the two as gospel truth. Hmmm.....I wonder why.
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Wrong, I don't accept either.
 
rcart76 said:
See here is you guys hypocrisy

You accept Christie's report as is.... no questions ask moving forward.......

BUT..... A report that says that The Obama Administration had no knowledge of what is going on, then it is all of a sudden a conspiracy going on. They can't be trusted.


So I ask you guys this. Why is your double standard > The left double standard?
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Please show one instance where a "report" from outside the White House has EVER been issued clearing the Obama administration of such things as Benghazi, the IRS corruption scandal and I will consider the above as something more than yet another ignorant, knee jerk response to the least criticism. Please demonstrate how and when the "left" has even co-operated with an investigation and I will actually reconsider my contention that all of Obamaland to be the thin skinned "my guy is perfect" hypocrites YOU are. I mean when your guy lies 40 times to buy himself a second term, then lies to cover that lie, where do any of you get off calling anyone hypocrite?

Show me where YOU called Obama on that one?
 
Fearandloathing said:
I mean when your guy lies 40 times to buy himself a second term, then lies to cover that lie, where do any of you get off calling anyone hypocrite?
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Only 40 times? That must be some kind of record for lowest number of lies ever. His opponent lied at least as often trying to get a first term. Which is partially why I refused to vote for either of the Obamney twins.
 
So Christie exonerated Christie with most of the one million dollars coming from GOPs in New Jersey since GOPs pay more taxes. :lamo
Cantor wait for the primaries .
 
haymarket said:
You are right on the money. even before this scandal hit Christie could not have gotten the nomination in such a right wing environment. Now he is simply damaged goods.
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Otherwise he would have had your vote, huh?
 
eohrnberger said:
The real issue here is what was told to the people. Obama and his admin rode that Internet Video meme and the 'Spontaneous Demonstration' meme as long as was humanly possible, even though they already knew from the CIA that it was a planned and coordinated terrorist attack.

This misleading of the people may acceptable to some, and granted, as we have grown to know this president better, it becomes less and less of any sort of surprise. But I hardly think that it is acceptable, as do many others.
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The CIA provided that story so why don't they investigate the CIA? Because this is a vendetta against the President and nothing more.
 
LOL

From the OP:

The paper reported that the probe was commissioned by Christie, who selected a legal team from the firm of Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher. The story notes the firm “has close ties” to the Christie administration.

The lawyer leading the review, Randy M. Mastro, dismissed any speculation of sugarcoating and said the review will lay out a timeline of events as well as communications leading up to the closures.

Christie’s review, announced in January, included 70 interviews — among them, Christie, his lieutenant governor and senior staff— and cost nearly $1 million in legal fees that will fall upon taxpayers. The review did not include interviews with key former staffers Bridget Anne Kelly or Bill Stepien, whose emails linked the administration to the scandal and ultimately led to their departures from the governor’s administration. Along with Kelly and Stepien, David Wildstein, an ex-Port Authority official appointed by Christie, also declined to be interviewed.
 
Grant said:
Otherwise he would have had your vote, huh?
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I am sorry but I did not realize one could not comment on the topic unless they were a confirmed supporter of Christie.
 
iguanaman said:
The CIA provided that story so why don't they investigate the CIA? Because this is a vendetta against the President and nothing more.
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No, it's not. And I'll tell you why.

It was the President and his administration that went forward with both ridiculous and untrue memes of spontaneous demonstration and Internet video. This continued weeks after the attack, all the way up to, and beyond, Obama's UN speech.

The CIA's original talking points called it a terrorist attack, and the administration saw it fit to alter those talking points for political reasons: the election.

Are we now to believe that sacrificing the truth for political reasons is acceptable?
That expecting honesty from the President and his administration is beyond a reasonable expectation? (Obama's track record of lying already shows that it is)

Surely this is a new low that politics and elected officials have sunk to, and it's only happening because we allow it to happen without any repercussions or consequences. Is this really the path forward into the future that we want to follow? More of the same?

Will this continue to be your position should a Republican hold the office of President? Somehow I don't believe that you would be.
 
eohrnberger said:
No, it's not. And I'll tell you why.

It was the President and his administration that went forward with both ridiculous and untrue memes of spontaneous demonstration and Internet video. This continued weeks after the attack, all the way up to, and beyond, Obama's UN speech.

The CIA's original talking points called it a terrorist attack, and the administration saw it fit to alter those talking points for political reasons: the election.

Are we now to believe that sacrificing the truth for political reasons is acceptable?
That expecting honesty from the President and his administration is beyond a reasonable expectation? (Obama's track record of lying already shows that it is)

Surely this is a new low that politics and elected officials have sunk to, and it's only happening because we allow it to happen without any repercussions or consequences. Is this really the path forward into the future that we want to follow? More of the same?

Will this continue to be your position should a Republican hold the office of President? Somehow I don't believe that you would be.
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LOL You made the same mistake that made a fool of Romney in the debate. Obama called the event "an act of terror" the very first day. This is all about the difference between words "terrorist attack" and "act of terror? Could that be any more petty? Thanks for proving my point.
 
eohrnberger said:
Well, I'll be. Imagine that. An occasional bit of honest from the press.



And when Obama investigates himself, via his DOJ and his AG, the left believes it. I'm not seeing your huge difference here.
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Darrell Issa has been investigating Benghazi since it first happened. What are his findings and how much did it cost the taxpayers?
 
In politics guilty or innocent are not the issue. Simply attaching a name to a dirty deed convinces a percentage of people to one or the other. It is a very old effective trick.
 
reinoe said:
Darrell Issa has been investigating Benghazi since it first happened. What are his findings and how much did it cost the taxpayers?
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Don't forget to add the IRS investigation too. Money is no object when it comes to digging up dirt about the President. It is a disgrace.

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iguanaman said:
LOL You made the same mistake that made a fool of Romney in the debate. Obama called the event "an act of terror" the very first day. This is all about the difference between words "terrorist attack" and "act of terror? Could that be any more petty? Thanks for proving my point.
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So what was all the talk in the media by the administration about the spontaneous demonstration and Internet video? This was nothing more than the typical Obama and his administration misleading the public, which, in the mean time, we've all grown accustomed to.

reinoe said:
Darrell Issa has been investigating Benghazi since it first happened. What are his findings and how much did it cost the taxpayers?
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It's all right here in their report: http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Report-for-Members-final.pdf

So far their conclusions are:
Conclusion
The unclassified ARB report begins with a quote from George Santayana’s 1905 book, Reason in Common Sense: “Those that cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” Notwithstanding this promising start, the gaps in the ARB review and final report identified by the Committee signal that the State Department may very well be doomed to repeat its past mistakes.

In response to a question about Benghazi at a May 13, 2013 press conference, the President pledged to the American people to “find out what happened.”

To this day, more than one year after the attacks, not a single person at the State Department has actually been fired or formally held accountable for the at tacks in Benghazi. More importantly, those most accountable for the attacks in Benghazi the terrorists who attacked U.S. facilities and claimed the lives of four Americans have not been brought to justice.

The gaps in the ARB’s work are particularly troubling because the Obama Administration has repeatedly touted the ARB report as the final word on failures by the State Department that contributed to the inadequate security posture in Benghazi. The limitations inherent in the ARB’s mandate and the weaknesses in the ARB’s methodology show that a more thorough investigation is necessary. The Committee will continue to examine the events before, during and after the September 11, 2012 attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities to properly assign accountability and to make findings that will inform legislative remedies.
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