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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    IRS investigation is presently stonewalled by Lerner only pleading the 5th regardless of which question is asked, although I've heard that a appointing special prosecutor is being considered.

    Benghazi is effectively stonewalled by the administration alone.
    From what I've seen Lerner is seeking to give a private disposition to the committee. She's seeking to avoid public attention.

    As for Benghazi...The Senate Intelligence Committee report found there was no cover up...yet some Republicans claim they are getting "stonewalled" and there's a cover up.
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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Actually it didn't begin with Obama. It didn't begin with Bush, but the Bush Administration perfected it. They did a masterful job, truly. All future administrations will use what they have learned from the Bush years, and they will perfect it even more. The Obama Administration certainly has. The beauty of it all is that it has been and is today hidden in plain view. Brilliant, really. In fact it isn't a secret at all.

    It was once against the law for the federal government to deliberately use propaganda on Americans, not that it mattered. Washington does what Washington wants. Under Obama and with Congressional support the law now permits your tax dollars to be used to mind **** you and all Americans. Americans don't really care. Americans don't really know. That's the beautify of it. I'd be willing to bet that partisans are the worst victims of it, though all Americans are greatly harmed.

    The overarching point is that it doesn't really matter if the American media is biased toward liberals or conservatives. The bias will change depending on who is in the White House. We all must ask ourselves, is it bias in the media that we are opposed to or is it rather media bias that is opposed to our personal bias that we don't like. Anyone who honestly would like to make informed decisions would be opposed to media bias, period.

    I would submit that a significant percentage of the American people don't really want to be involved in making informed political decisions. They want it done for them. They pick media that will tell them what they want to hear and will tell them why they should feel as they feel. Americans for the most part DO NOT want their beliefs challenged. Americans want chatty beautiful "news" personalities to entertain them. News has to be a production or Americans won't watch it on TV. Americans won't read long articles full of details in daily newspapers.

    Here's arguably the most unbiased daily in the United States.
    I'd be inclined to agree with that, however, seems to be the one publication that most leftists love to hate.

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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    So officials pleading the 5th is cooperation?

    The Administration refusing to turn over emails.

    Refusing to allow internal investigators to testify

    And so on.

    At every turn the administration has been a stonewall to the investigation.
    Well that's because it's turning into a witch hunt. So nothing has been found in the investigation of the IRS so now they are investigating the investigators of the IRS scandal? In what realm is that not turning into a circus?
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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    Yea, that works both ways... a point that seems to elude you.
    No I don't think it does go both ways.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    No I don't think it does go both ways.
    So you accept that there was no administration wrongdoing in Benghazi?


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    So officials pleading the 5th is cooperation?

    The Administration refusing to turn over emails.

    Refusing to allow internal investigators to testify

    And so on.

    At every turn the administration has been a stonewall to the investigation.
    That's the House's investigation. The investigation referenced in the OP was Christie's internal investigation of himself. Obama's internal investigation showed no administration wrongdoing, or probably would if there is such thing.

    Yet, you only accept one of the two as gospel truth. Hmmm.....I wonder why.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So you accept that there was no administration wrongdoing in Benghazi?
    Why would I do that? I'm skeptical of everything, which is why I didn't proffer an opinion on the content of the report nor the accuracy of Christie's report.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Report: Chris Christie?s Bridgegate probe clears gov - Lucy McCalmont - POLITICO.com


    Surely just one important step showing the Gov didn't lie (unlike our many other prominent Washington politicians who have). The Christie haters will continue to hate, the Christie supporters will be rewarded for their steadfast support. The media will likely not say much since this denies a smoking gun and the demise of a rising star Republican. Whether or not Christie runs in 2016 probably hasn't changed - from a political standpoint the damage was done; mission accomplished.
    What, An investigation organized by Christie and carried out by a firm with close ties to Christie says he did do anything wrong. You don't say. I wonder if accused rapists,burglars, murders and other alleged criminals organized their own investigations and had their friends carry it out, how many of them would be cleared of wrong doing?

    I think you skipped the part of the story that this was not a impartial/unbiased or even an independent investigation. Anyone with at least an ounce of common sense will laugh at your story.
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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What, An investigation organized by Christie and carried out by a firm with close ties to Christie says he did do anything wrong. You don't say. I wonder if rapists,burglars, murders and other criminals organized their own investigations and had their friends carry it out how many of them would be cleared of wrong doing?
    See your confusing this with Whitewater. That was a totally different thing.

    However, this self appointed investigation is just as valid as the IRS investigation by Barbara Bosserman and the FBI. I guess this is the new normal.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Report: Chris Christie’s Bridgegate probe clears gov

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The leftist media will still attack him personally under the guise of whether Christie “created or condoned a culture that fostered political intimidation.” This is just the sort of speculation they will feed on over the next couple of years to attack any political candidate who threatens their Democrat favorite.
    I'm afraid a lot of NJ motorists are not "speculating" on anything.

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