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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    what part of "we are still going to consume the oil" is too complex, here? If you don't let a pipeline bring it down, it's going to be put on trucks or boats, either of which spill more.
    The tar sands oil is for EXPORT. We don't have a use for it. We are already exporting 400,000 barrels a day of gasoline.

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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Newsflash: When you don't transport oil by pipeline, you transport it by truck and boat, both of which actually spill more. When you don't allow oil exploration in the States or encourage it in the West, then it happens in the Gulf and other places, where the environmental policies are less strict to the extent that they are even there (how much do you think that the Chinese operating in Sudan care about protecting the local environment?). If you want to reduce pollution from oil, then you need to start promoting Western development and pipeline transportation.
    It's not about the environment. It's about government control of the prvate sector.

    It's never been about the environment...

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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The tar sands oil is for EXPORT. We don't have a use for it. We are already exporting 400,000 barrels a day of gasoline.
    No, it is for refinement. Oil is fungible.

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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The tar sands oil is for EXPORT. We don't have a use for it. We are already exporting 400,000 barrels a day of gasoline.
    Building the pipeline will create jobs
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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Hence why I have a Cause to advance, in this very thread.
    Apropos, perhaps:

    White House adviser John Podesta took aim Wednesday at environmentalists who have criticized the Obama administration’s support for natural gas.

    “If you oppose all fossil fuels and you want to turn that switch off tomorrow, that is a completely impractical way of moving toward a clean-energy future,” Podesta told reporters during a roundtable discussion at the White House.

    “With all due respect to my friends in the environmental community, if they expect us to turn off the lights and go home, that’s sort of an impractical suggestion,” he added...

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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, it is for refinement. Oil is fungible.
    And why exactly should we take all the risks of the pipeline and pollution from refining that goop? All the gasoline made from it will be exported. As I said we have no use for it.

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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The tar sands oil is for EXPORT. We don't have a use for it. We are already exporting 400,000 barrels a day of gasoline.

    Yes, because "energy prices necessarily skyrocketing" is exactly what you want. Right?
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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    And why exactly should we take all the risks of the pipeline and pollution from refining that goop?
    Is your goal to reduce pollution?

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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Apropos, perhaps:
    Nobody that I know of is suggesting that. I believe fusion may be more practical, in the long run.

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    Re: Thousands of Gallons of Crude Oil Spills in Ohio Nature Preserve

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's not about the environment. It's about government control of the prvate sector.

    It's never been about the environment...

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