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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    No, it doesn't. If they were aiming for the nearest air port, it wouldn't have flown out towards the Indian Ocean. Helios 522 entered into a holding pattern once it reached it's destination; and did so until it crashed. Had the same thing happened to 370, it would've done the same.

    It also doesn't explain why the transponder was turned off.
    Unless it ran out of fuel. What proof that they have that the transponder was turned off? I'd say, at this point, none. Could have been a massive electrical failure.

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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    A group of family of the passengers on the aircraft is now calling Malaysia murderers. If they did anything wrong, it was not to involve the U.S. in the search asap.

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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    A group of family of the passengers on the aircraft is now calling Malaysia murderers. If they did anything wrong, it was not to involve the U.S. in the search asap.
    Some people become so distraught they say things that are illogical and even downright mean. My dad who was in a funeral detail during the Vietnam War, said a deceased son's mother walked up to him and asked why it couldn't have been him instead of her son.

    But yeah the Malaysians wasted a lot of time not bringing in more experienced and expert help, and were not as forthcoming as they could have been.

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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    No, it doesn't. If they were aiming for the nearest air port, it wouldn't have flown out towards the Indian Ocean.
    Yes it would. If you had studied the situation, the only airport it could land was the one it came from, hence the turn is very logical, and the direction is logical.

    Helios 522 entered into a holding pattern once it reached it's destination; and did so until it crashed. Had the same thing happened to 370, it would've done the same.
    Sigh.. the key is not the freaking holding pattern, but the fact that the passengers and crew were knocked out... and letting the auto-pilot fly till the plane ran out of fuel.. THAT is the point I was making.

    It also doesn't explain why the transponder was turned off.
    Fire. Electronical failure. A mistake, the buttons are close to others. If there was a decompression, then fog will be generated along with high sounds (your ear drums basically pop), and hitting the wrong button in the chaos is relatively easy.

    It almost seems that American's want this to be some sort of terror instead of mechanical failure... protecting Boeing?
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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If they did anything wrong, it was not to involve the U.S. in the search asap.
    Why? It wouldn't have made any difference to the outcome.
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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    And as it is pointing twoards pilot invovlement, that question get insane. I used to work at an airport. International flagship airlines were crewed by the best and the brightest and.... had the hottest flight attendants- hands down. (these airlines are quasi official ambassadors for their nations).

    I bet the crews are well paid, screened for emotional problems, financial problems, religous and political extremism etc. when hired, and then constantly re-investigated for any of those things. Search warrants in say Malaysia, for these investigations are easy to obtain. For fear of the police, neighbors dont cover for you. Any hint of trouble gets you fired, with no endless court appeals about fairness.
    Bull****. If you pay someone enough $, you can make them do anything.

    The pilot was most likely paid by terrorists or some govt. w/a nefarious agenda to commandeer the plane and take it off course and land somewhere else. That's the only logical explanation given the evidence.

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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    Immarsat is lying about its satellite data findings. It claims that it was able to pinpoint the plane's last ping location given its relative speed w/respect to the satellite in space, by computing the Doppler shift in the ping's wavelength.

    but that make no sense at all. The Doppler shift in radio waves from a source moving much slower than c is sooooooooo small that unless the satellite had been designed to pick up such a small shift, it won't.

    And it doesn't make sense that the satellite would be designed to do so--an extremely expensive feature that would be used ONLY for relativistic science experiments. It's primarily a commercial satellite used to send info back to a plane, NOT track its altitude, velocity, etc. There would be no need to detect Doppler shifts at all.

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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Helios Airways Flight 522 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    This is what most likely happened based on the available information and how pilots are trained to react in such situations.
    I've seen variations of that scenario discussed, but I can't get passed the fact that the crew didn't send out any kind of distress call. If they turned to go toward an airport they would have at least radioed the airport to get clearance. There were other planes up there.

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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've seen variations of that scenario discussed, but I can't get passed the fact that the crew didn't send out any kind of distress call. If they turned to go toward an airport they would have at least radioed the airport to get clearance. There were other planes up there.
    And if there was a fire that damaged the communications system including the transponder? Plus it takes a minute to set the autopilot if that.. what if they were knocked out? Yes there are unanswered questions but there are far more logical and credible answers than it was some suicide or terrorist action. It can be pilot error, or plane error.. that happens far far far more often than terror.
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    Re: Malaysian Prime Minister: Flight 370 Crashed Into Indian Ocean, No Survivors

    There would have been an Oh S*** or something. Do they even have to key their mikes anymore?
    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    I've seen variations of that scenario discussed, but I can't get passed the fact that the crew didn't send out any kind of distress call. If they turned to go toward an airport they would have at least radioed the airport to get clearance. There were other planes up there.
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