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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It was a mass trial where 529 people were sentenced to death for the same murder. The defense was not allowed to present a case. Yes, they got it wrong. Picture 529 Christians in the United States given this sentence for the death of one police officer and then ask yourself the question again.
    Do you think the Nuremburg trials were fair?
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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    The Arab Spring. Sounds so refreshing and cleansing. Obama applauded it and supported it.

    All it's doing is turning Egypt, Libya, etc, into southern Afghanistan.

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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah that's for sure.....our attorneys would have been filing paperwork from day one. Getting half of them bonded out. Those caught in the dead act would still make bond as long as they got the money. Our attorneys know how to use real democracy to get around the law. Bend it, break it, and use it against its ownself.

    Good thing the Egyptian Military didn't just pick up everybody off the street. They went after the MB and those that aided them. The same ones they branded terrorists after the MB said they don't accept Morsi being removed from Office. Then continued on to incite Riots and attacks on whoever gets in the Mb's way.
    A couple of things

    1. I think there was a problem with the way Morsi was removed from office
    2. To my knowlege, no one has demonstrated that the MB as an organization, is advocating attacks on whoever opposes their agenda
    3. I think that to go persecute everyone in an organization for the activities of a few members is a recipe to increase terrorism

    Injustice is the breeding ground for terrorism. What the Egyptian government is doing is way too heavy handed. I find it amazing that Putin is labeled as Hitler by someone like HC, yet el-Sisi has done far worse and we say nothing. In fact we continue to send billions of dollars to Egypt.

    One of our biggest problems is that we are way to inconsistent about how we apply standards, especially when it comes to human rights and democracy.

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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The Arab Spring. Sounds so refreshing and cleansing. Obama applauded it and supported it.

    All it's doing is turning Egypt, Libya, etc, into southern Afghanistan.

    They should have figured out from the beginning that there was already an Irish Spring.....Nothing like the real thing. An Original!


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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    A couple of things

    1. I think there was a problem with the way Morsi was removed from office
    2. To my knowlege, no one has demonstrated that the MB as an organization, is advocating attacks on whoever opposes their agenda
    3. I think that to go persecute everyone in an organization for the activities of a few members is a recipe to increase terrorism

    Injustice is the breeding ground for terrorism. What the Egyptian government is doing is way too heavy handed. I find it amazing that Putin is labeled as Hitler by someone like HC, yet el-Sisi has done far worse and we say nothing. In fact we continue to send billions of dollars to Egypt.

    One of our biggest problems is that we are way to inconsistent about how we apply standards, especially when it comes to human rights and democracy.


    Heya MS. The MB is an Organization and furthermore all know who have been supporting them That would be Qatar. The Syrian MB helped get the Issus with Syria going. The MB has been is into several ME countries as well as even here in the US. We even have some threads here that info on them. Just check search and they should come up.

    The Saud and other Sunni are all agreeing that the MB are terrorists. Here is a piece I had up. Although, I do think the children can be saved and the indoctrination removed.



    Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain said Wednesday they have recalled their ambassadors from Qatar in the clearest move yet underscoring their apparent displeasure over Doha's support for the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood group in Egypt and elsewhere the region.

    The three Gulf Arab states made the announcement in a joint statement on state media, saying Qatar had breached a regional security deal. They said the move was made to protect their security.

    Qatar's massive financial and public support for Mubarak's successor, President Mohammed Morsi, who hails from the Brotherhood, stood at odds with UAE and Saudi policies — as did its condemnation of Morsi's ouster last July by the Egyptian military, following days of massive protests in Cairo against the Islamist president.

    At home, both the UAE and Saudi Arabia have cracked down on Islamist groups with links to the Brotherhood, which they see as a threat to their ruling systems. They are both staunch supporters of Egypt's new military-backed government, which subsequently launched sweeping crackdowns on Morsi and his Brotherhood supporters.

    The agreement called on all GCC members not to interfere, "whether directly or indirectly" in another member nation's internal affairs. It also stipulated that GCC countries would not support organizations or individuals that threaten the security and stability of Arabian Peninsula countries "either through direct security work or by attempting to influence politics.".....snip~

    Saudi, UAE, Bahrain recall their envoys from Qatar

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...oys-qatar.html

    So says.....one of the Alleged Southern Kings.


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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yea didn't have this issue under their old president. egypt was fairly stable so who was it that caused that mess over there? ol yea obama.
    you have to realize that over in other countries you are guilty unless you prove yourself innocent.

    when you have the number of rioters like they do over there you are not going to get fair trials. in fact it is the opposite of fair.
    heck we can't even get fair trials in the US.

    that is why when a movie star is busted for having crack or cocaine on them they get a slap on the wrist and rehab. the normal person goes to jail.
    Their old President is extremely old and in poor health, he's unable to get out of a hospital bed, if you thought sticking with an 85 year old man who couldn't walk is the a good long term plan you're thinking wrong. And if you think Obama caused the uprising that overthrew him you're even more wrong

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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Do you think the Nuremburg trials were fair?
    I'm not familiar with the details. Did they last longer than five minutes and did the accused have an attorney and an opportunity to present a defense?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Their old President is extremely old and in poor health, he's unable to get out of a hospital bed, if you thought sticking with an 85 year old man who couldn't walk is the a good long term plan you're thinking wrong. And if you think Obama caused the uprising that overthrew him you're even more wrong
    Obama Administration Urges Mubarak to Step Down - US News

    not really. he put down an uprising mostly from the muslim brotherhood and obama calls for him to step down.
    so yea obama is to blame for all the non-sense going on over there because obama has no clue.

    just like he has no clue on how to deal with putin. putin is running all over obama and pretty much ignoring everything he has to say.
    weak leadership yields no respect and obama has no respect.

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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Obama Administration Urges Mubarak to Step Down - US News

    not really. he put down an uprising mostly from the muslim brotherhood and obama calls for him to step down.
    so yea obama is to blame for all the non-sense going on over there because obama has no clue.

    just like he has no clue on how to deal with putin. putin is running all over obama and pretty much ignoring everything he has to say.
    weak leadership yields no respect and obama has no respect.
    Urges him to step down did not cause his overthrow, and this article is from after the riots that over threw him started.

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    Re: Egypt sentences to death 529 supporters of Mohamed Morsi

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I'm not familiar with the details. Did they last longer than five minutes and did the accused have an attorney and an opportunity to present a defense?
    Nuremberg if you were not aware was the UN court that put all of the nazi high command on trial after WW2. It was where the term following orders is not a defense came into play a ton.

    i would say that nuremburg was pretty much a just stand there and you are guilty type court. sure they had some kind of defense but it did them little good. i think almost all were found guilty of something, and most of them were either killed or put in prison for life.

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