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    Oil spill blocks Houston ship channel, threatens wildlife preserves http://www.latim

    Another oil spill. Although modern human society has benefited from the convenience of oil and it's derivative products, it is causing significant environmental damage. However, the powerful influence of the oil industry insures that we will be dependent on oil for years to come.

    Oil spill blocks Houston ship channel, threatens wildlife preserves - latimes.com

    Oil spilled from a barge in Galveston Bay, blocking the busy Houston ship channel and threatening some birds at a nearby wildlife sanctuary, officials and environmentalists said.

    U.S. Coast Guard officials said as much as 168,000 gallons of oil may have spilled.

    Michael Lambert, spokesman for Galveston County Office of Emergency Management, called it a “significant spill,” but not based on the amount of oil.

    “The real issue is that it’s in the ship channel, near environmentally sensitive areas. So there’s an economic impact and an environmental impact,” he told the Los Angeles Times.

    Crews were skimming oil and laying absorbent booms to contain the spread of the spill, which occurred in the channel that runs between Galveston Island and the Bolivar Peninsula, Lambert said

    Containing the spill is likely to take days, he said.

    Coast Guard port captain Brian Penoyer said at a Sunday news briefing that oil had been spotted a dozen miles offshore in the Gulf of Mexico.

    He said the spill blocked about about 60 vessels, including cruise ships, from transiting the channel, one of the world's busiest petrochemical transport routes.

    Penoyer said all of the remaining oil had been removed from the damaged barge and the barge had been taken out of the channel. He did not say when the channel would reopen.]

    On Sunday, the spill prevented dozens of ships, including a few cruise ships, from transiting the channel, one of the world's busiest petrochemical transport routes.

    The spill comes on the eve of the 25th anniversary of the massive Exxon oil spill in Valdez, Alaska, that took a devastating toll on wildlife. That spill involved 10 million gallons of oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Another oil spill. Although modern human society has benefited from the convenience of oil and it's derivative products, it is causing significant environmental damage. However, the powerful influence of the oil industry insures that we will be dependent on oil for years to come.

    Oil spill blocks Houston ship channel, threatens wildlife preserves - latimes.com
    Saying that modern human society has benefited from the convenience of oil is a lot like saying it has benefited from the industrial revolution. Without oil, there would be no modern human society. We'd still be plowing with mules and riding in horse drawn carriages.

    Now, is there a substitute for oil? Not yet, no. Someday, let's hope, as the world's supply is finite, and no one wants to go back to plowing with horses and riding in carriages.

    Oh, and there were lots of "spills" from those horses as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Saying that modern human society has benefited from the convenience of oil is a lot like saying it has benefited from the industrial revolution. Without oil, there would be no modern human society. We'd still be plowing with mules and riding in horse drawn carriages.

    Now, is there a substitute for oil? Not yet, no. Someday, let's hope, as the world's supply is finite, and no one wants to go back to plowing with horses and riding in carriages.

    Oh, and there were lots of "spills" from those horses as well.
    A couple of things. First, I think it's more accurate to say there would be no modern human society as we know. There are other forms of energy that do not depend on oil. For example, steam engines don't necessary depend on oil, although they can use oil as a source of heat. There is also electrical energy, solar energy, and wind energy. So it's not necessarily true that you would be plowing with mules if it were not for oil.

    Next of all, has the negative environmental impact been worth the convenience? It was sure sad to see the beautiful beaches of Pensacola ruined by the big oil spill. Not only that, but the quality of the air we breath. Some things don't have a price.

    Lastly, what's wrong with plowing with mules if it means less war and a more sustainable way of life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    A couple of things. First, I think it's more accurate to say there would be no modern human society as we know. There are other forms of energy that do not depend on oil. For example, steam engines don't necessary depend on oil, although they can use oil as a source of heat. There is also electrical energy, solar energy, and wind energy. So it's not necessarily true that you would be plowing with mules if it were not for oil.

    Next of all, has the negative environmental impact been worth the convenience? It was sure sad to see the beautiful beaches of Pensacola ruined by the big oil spill. Not only that, but the quality of the air we breath. Some things don't have a price.

    Lastly, what's wrong with plowing with mules if it means less war and a more sustainable way of life?
    Modern society would definitely be a lot different. Electric cars may come into their own eventually, but then there's the problem of generating enough electricity. Steam can be produced by coal, and who knows, maybe steam engines would have taken the place of the internal combustion engine. As for plowing with mules, you have to be kidding. We have to import illegal aliens to do what little agricultural work remains to be done in an industrial society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Modern society would definitely be a lot different. Electric cars may come into their own eventually, but then there's the problem of generating enough electricity. Steam can be produced by coal, and who knows, maybe steam engines would have taken the place of the internal combustion engine. As for plowing with mules, you have to be kidding. We have to import illegal aliens to do what little agricultural work remains to be done in an industrial society.
    Ain't nothing wrong with a little hard work. Hard work is good for a man. Keeps you fit and strong. Just think instead of people having to spend all that time working out, they could simply plow the fields and stay as fit as a fiddle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Ain't nothing wrong with a little hard work. Hard work is good for a man. Keeps you fit and strong. Just think instead of people having to spend all that time working out, they could simply plow the fields and stay as fit as a fiddle.
    Yep, that there plowin' and aplantin' keeps a man fit and young. Why, my grandpappy did it from sunup to sundown and lived to almost 50! Imagine that, almost half a century of life.
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    Re: Oil spill blocks Houston ship channel, threatens wildlife preserves http://www.l

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Yep, that there plowin' and aplantin' keeps a man fit and young. Why, my grandpappy did it from sunup to sundown and lived to almost 50! Imagine that, almost half a century of life.
    LOL

    My grandpappy told of the time he was aplowin' with the mules in the corn fields in July. Said it got so hot tha corn started apoppin' in the fields. The poor ole mule seen the corn apoppin' as such, took it to be snow, and froze to death!!

    Seriously, there something to be said for that kind of life. I remember living in a village in one country for a couple of months were they don't have electricity. I don't know about now, but some people used oxen to plow. I knew this man who was 84 years old who used to walk barefoot in the mountains every morning and those were pretty high mountains. That guy beat me digging a ditch and he did it barefoot, that's a fact. There was another guy there that lived to be over 100. He fathered his last child at the age of around 74, I think. He was surely over 70. But there is no air pollution, the ground is fertile, and the people don't use pesticides. So there you go. Food for thought.

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    Re: Oil spill blocks Houston ship channel, threatens wildlife preserves http://www.l

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Another oil spill. Although modern human society has benefited from the convenience of oil and it's derivative products, it is causing significant environmental damage. However, the powerful influence of the oil industry insures that we will be dependent on oil for years to come.

    Oil spill blocks Houston ship channel, threatens wildlife preserves - latimes.com
    Yeah, but at least it's not a pipeline!!! The Alaska pipeline had destroyed that entire region with leaks!!

    Oh, wait, that never happened. BUT tanker ships IS the Obama demand. No pipelines, just tankers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Yeah, but at least it's not a pipeline!!! The Alaska pipeline had destroyed that entire region with leaks!!

    Oh, wait, that never happened. BUT tanker ships IS the Obama demand. No pipelines, just tankers.
    Pipelines are prone to rupture. A spill is a spill, no matter what the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Pipelines are prone to rupture. A spill is a spill, no matter what the source.
    There have been many major tanker and barge oil spills. Name a major oil pipeline rupture? It is also significantly easier to clean up a oil spill on land than in water.

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