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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    You can't pass a law against a right that is clearly written out in the constitution, gay marriage does not rise to that level.
    Anyone can pass any law they can get through. They have in fact done so in the past (which is why states before were allowed to have state religions). It is why segregation lasted long after the passage of the 14th Amendment. There are so many examples.

    It is merely your opinion that laws banning couples from marriage based on their relative sexes are not at a level that violates the US Constitution. Many courts and law experts disagree with you.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Laws are supposed to be passed in congress not by judges.
    These are state laws, altho civil rights are to be protected at all levels....federal if necessary.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    The fact that you're so incredibly loose with the Nazi analogy automatically renders your opinion utterly null and void. It speaks to

    (A) the fact you're too uneducated to come up with a novel comparison (the Armenian genocide, perhaps?).

    (B) a profound ignorance of the difference between individuals being freed to do something they couldn't before, as in gay marriage, and a mass slaughter of millions for the crime of their ethnicity.

    (C) a persecution complex - indeed, a desire to be persecuted, as your Good Book tells you you will be in the end-times and as you surely wish to be, as if somehow being persecuted ("just like the Jews!") would prove you correct.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Anyone can pass any law they can get through. They have in fact done so in the past (which is why states before were allowed to have state religions). It is why segregation lasted long after the passage of the 14th Amendment. There are so many examples.

    It is merely your opinion that laws banning couples from marriage based on their relative sexes are not at a level that violates the US Constitution. Many courts and law experts disagree with you.
    But who cares about experts, roguenuke?

    Bah! Bah, says I! Experts are all ayyye-leeetist ayeg-heads anywho. Why, I can build a car engine just as well as a union carmaker! I can operate the LHC just as well as any MIT physicist! I don't need no Gawddamn elites!
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    These are state laws.
    And to stop state laws that don't violate the constitution you should have an over riding federal law that renders them immediately null and void. It is about separation of powers.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    And to stop state laws that don't violate the constitution you should have an over riding federal law that renders them immediately null and void. It is about separation of powers.
    These state laws are being challenged as violating the US Constitution, hence why they would be stopped if the SCOTUS rules that they do in fact violate the Constitution.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    And to stop state laws that don't violate the constitution you should have an over riding federal law that renders them immediately null and void. It is about separation of powers.
    So you agree, then, that we need a Federal Marriage Amendment - legalizing gay marriage in all fifty States?
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Anyone can pass any law they can get through. They have in fact done so in the past (which is why states before were allowed to have state religions). It is why segregation lasted long after the passage of the 14th Amendment. There are so many examples.

    It is merely your opinion that laws banning couples from marriage based on their relative sexes are not at a level that violates the US Constitution. Many courts and law experts disagree with you.
    The right to keep and bear arms is clearly written out in the constitution, the right for gays to marry clearly is not.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Einzige View Post
    So you agree, then, that we need a Federal Marriage Amendment - legalizing gay marriage in all fifty States?
    That would be fine, I just don't want judges over stepping their bounds.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    The right to keep and bear arms is clearly written out in the constitution, the right for gays to marry clearly is not.
    The right to equal protection of the laws within the states is clearly written out in the Constitution. It simply covers a whole lot more than the right to bear arms does.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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