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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    That was the logical conclusion of your words.
    No, that's the moronic extreme of my words.

    Your words come off sounding awfully silly to those who are actually informed.
    Your words come off sounding downright stupid; you run someone's point to an extreme in order to defeat the strawman you create. You're not really debating anyone, you're just spewing crap.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Neither the 14th amendment or anything else in the U.S. constitution supports the oxymoronic "gay marriage" any more than it supports forcing dog owners to let cat-owners enter their cats in a dog show.

    What the constitution supports is preventing dog-owners from banning cat-owners from having cat shows, and, analogously likewise, preventing states from not allowing same-sex domestic partnership civil unions called "homarriage" or the like for same-sex couples as states have allowed opposite-sex domestic partnership civil unions called "marriage".

    You misunderstand the entire issue.
    Tell me where specifically in this ruling you disagreed with the judge's application of the 14th amendment. Please quote the actual ruling.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The judge who ruled in this case agreed with that exact principle. Perhaps you should READ the ruling so you know what you are commenting about.
    So you are agreeing with me then.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, that's the moronic extreme of my words.
    Read the ruling or continue to sound like you do not know what you are talking about.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    So you are agreeing with me then.
    Read the ruling.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Fighting against the tyranny of the minority, the minority of those who would want "gay marriage" for themselves and their temporarily-in-power ideological power abusers supporting the disaffected coalition, is simply one of the ways humanity spends money to fight wrong doers and right wrongs.
    In what way does allowing same-sex marriage constitute "tyranny?"
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The will of the people is not a majority vote in Michigan. The will of the people is the US Constitution. It is literally spelled out "We the people..."
    Yes, and not to be confused with We, the Federal judge.

    For one thing, its not even grammatically correct.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    Neither the 14th amendment or anything else in the U.S. constitution supports the oxymoronic "gay marriage" any more than it supports forcing dog owners to let cat-owners enter their cats in a dog show.

    What the constitution supports is preventing dog-owners from banning cat-owners from having cat shows, and, analogously likewise, preventing states from not allowing same-sex domestic partnership civil unions called "homarriage" or the like for same-sex couples as states have allowed opposite-sex domestic partnership civil unions called "marriage".

    You misunderstand the entire issue.
    A gender-based classification is subject to equal protection challenges. This isn't an issue of semantics, no matter how much you insist it is. "Dog" and "cat" aren't protected classifications under the equal protection clause. Certain characteristics of humans are protected from unequal treatment, and gender is one such classification. Defining marriage at the government level as between one man and one woman is a gender-based distinction. How you, Ontologuy, personally want to perceive the word is irrelevant to the discussion. The legal distinctions are the subject.

    Your ignorance of the mechanics of equal protection is something you should really address before making the sort of statements you make.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Read the ruling or continue to sound like you do not know what you are talking about.
    I was commenting on your "benevolent tyrant" crap. If your comment cannot stand on its own, it's not legitimate.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, that's the moronic extreme of my words.



    Your words come off sounding downright stupid; you run someone's point to an extreme in order to defeat the strawman you create. You're not really debating anyone, you're just spewing crap.
    Oh forgive me for wanting to debate the actual ruling this thread is about. How unreasonable of me to expect people to actually read it and be able to debate it's reasoning rather than complain that a Reagen appointed judge did not ignore the Constitution in favor of a state's popular vote.

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