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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Exactly, what is considered wrong is up to the People to determine, especially on anything doing with the fundamental restructuring of our society.

    WE GET TO DETERMINE THAT SUBJECTIVE RIGHT OR WRONG.

    Show me where these specific designs in the Constitution are that are able to override the majority will. Does not the Constitution allow us, we the people out here in the states, to hold conventions out here and be ratified by conventions out here... all by super-majority... sound awful majority oriented, doesn't it? How would the Constitution stop that majority again?
    The main thing to base what is considered "wrong" off of is the US Constitution.

    When you get a supermajority to put into place a ban on same sex marriages, or an Amendment that allows for you to ban same sex marriage without violating the equal protection guaranteed by the 14th Amendment, then you can have your way. Til then, equal protection overrides the will of the simple (50%) majority. A good percentage of those who support same sex marriage are heterosexual.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Hey, bro.

    You're an ingrate and a collectivist, so there's no point arguing the main thread with you, but I'd like to show you something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    .. well that opens the doors up to a hydra-headed Pandora's box of future cassandras
    This is one of the most abominable, most abysmal, most utterly asininely ****ing retarded things I've ever read. Have you ever heard of a 'mixed metaphor'? It's what happens when you use two unrelated metaphors at once and confuse the message. You've just used three in one sentence fragment, and the only relation between them is that they're all derived from Greek mythology.
    I dip my forefinger in the watery blood of your impotent mad-redeemer (your Divine Democrat — your Hebrew Madman) and write over his thorn-torn brow, “The true prince of Evil — the king of the Slaves!”
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Nor is your side, so what is your point? You have already voted in all 50 states, SSM is now official... ? Absurd silliness you are promoting now.

    You have shown me absolutely nothing of any lasting value in this regard...have you?

    Have you?
    And some places have had multiple votes, including one where the vote overturned a previous vote, showing that public opinion on this issue changes fast so it is best to simply revert to the fact that the bans violate the US Constitution and have them all struck down at once.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No we are discussing marriage laws. Cultures change all the time, including ours.

    You can jump up and down and scream "we won't stand for this" to your hearts desire, while the rest of us sit back and laugh at such antics because they are completely foolish and are not going to accomplish anything.
    Whoa, that sounded awfully deep... oops, nope, sorry, meant shallow.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Who said I can't? You project much.
    Got something on topic you want to discuss, perhaps... or just want to sit around and ...
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    We the people don't have to have that standard... we can just pass an amendment should we so choose.
    Requires a supermajority vote of both Congress and the states. You don't have that amount of support. It wasn't even there in 2004/2006 when the US Congress then attempted to get Amendments that would specifically state that marriage was between a man and a woman into the Constitution. It failed. Didn't get a supermajority (needed) vote in the House and didn't even make it to a vote in the Senate.

    Federal Marriage Amendment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    But hey, they're trying again (futilely).

    Actions - H.J.Res.51 - 113th Congress (2013-2014): Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relating to marriage. | Congress.gov | Library of Congress

    Ted Cruz Introduces Anti-Gay Marriage Bill

    You don't even have the support in the states because the state legislatures vote on US Constitution Amendments, not the people directly.
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    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Has it passed yet, hope you holding your breath, should be soon now, eh?
    It did in my state....we voted for it.

    I hope you really dont believe it will not become the law of the land? Seriously? And that it would be repealed where legal?


    OH...and did you forget...again....to tell us the harm SSM does? Can do?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    We the people don't have to have that standard... we can just pass an amendment should we so choose.
    Yes you do. You cant just create a law for NO REASON.

    If you have a reason, what is it? I'd love to see a law based on 'we just dont like it, it makes us feel icky because we cant keep our minds out of their bedrooms.'

    I mean...they're not having sex on the sidewalks, are they?

    I love it! Please give us a reason! Otherwise you claim a majority of your other Americans are just preparing for a big temper tantrum, "I dont have to have a reason, I just dont like it!"
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    I know, lets celebrate liberal activist judges overruling the will of the people.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I know, lets celebrate liberal activist judges overruling the will of the people.
    In favor of the rights of the people and upholding the guarantees of the US Constitution, always.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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