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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Very very informative post...I mean, notwithstanding the omission of having any information actually included....so, perhaps you might elucidate for us a tad... you know, for the ill- and under- informed masses out here?
    The MMA did not reasonably stand up to even the lowest tier if scrutiny. The judge found no reasonable state interest that is served by the ban and explicitly went through all four arguments offered by the state and explained precisely why those arguments were found unreasonable. Can you point out which specific argument in the ruling you did not agree with and how the judge was mistaken in their reasoning? Or do you care so little about it as to actually take the time to read the ruling?

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    Disagree, this country is chock full of disgraceful majority-approved "black codes," anti-gay laws, name your minority. "Millions" only enables/results from hysteria
    Do you understand that any problem has many facets that can only be viewed by various perspectives and that those perspectives, combined, provide the most objective view of the problem.

    If one can grasp this, then one can understand the short-coming of a "benevolent tyrant".

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I am sorry you do not like the US Constitution and the 14th amendment.
    Neither the 14th amendment or anything else in the U.S. constitution supports the oxymoronic "gay marriage" any more than it supports forcing dog owners to let cat-owners enter their cats in a dog show.

    What the constitution supports is preventing dog-owners from banning cat-owners from having cat shows, and, analogously likewise, preventing states from not allowing same-sex domestic partnership civil unions called "homarriage" or the like for same-sex couples as states have allowed opposite-sex domestic partnership civil unions called "marriage".

    You misunderstand the entire issue.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    I would be embarrased to call myself a "conservative"...a conservator of American Ideals and rights and make this statement.
    While I am sure this would not staunch the gush of other reasons in which one might have good reason to be embarrassed, one just might try reading the wording in the context of which the argument was presented.

    Yeah, I know, blah blah blah, that seems lost as a cause and so good luck to all that have to ask it be explained. I have taken a silent pledge not to dumb down responses.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    I read your words.



    What other possible meanings could they have?
    Obviously I meant having the government involved in whatever was legalized. Liberals aren't interested in people being free, but only the most effective way to control people.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Ouch!!

    Well argued... sorry, but I must now tend to the grievous wounds you have so deftly inflicted ...
    I thought it was at least the equal of your "Yes...and so...what?? "
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    The majority in MI are uneducated hicks. Believe me, i grew up around them. This was also 10 years ago. They should be grateful to not be placed in the deepest darkest dungeon for this abuse of their fellow citizens. I can only laugh at the bigot voters on this day
    So basically your fellow humans who vote against you don't deserve to have their vote respected, so you get to call them names and deride them.

    Your attitude in this regard is what conservatives deride as "liberal arrogance", and will be a likely contributing factor to the Republican takeover of the Senate very soon.

    The majority of Americans are tired of liberal activist judges and the ideologically alike in power thwarting the will of the majority of the people, then calling the majority names, adding insult to injury.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    What idiot told you that?
    That was the logical conclusion of your words. You appear to be claiming a majority vote in Michigan should override the rights assured by the US Constitution, namely Equal Protection of the laws as assured by the 14th amendment. You do know this is a court ruling with specific arguments and reasoning, right? You should probably actually read the ruling so you know what you are arguing against instead of doing the lazy "judicial tyranny" thing. Your words come off sounding awfully silly to those who are actually informed.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    You, "the people," are not qualified to dictate how people like me live, no. I'd take an educated "judicial tyrant" making that decision every time.
    I have no doubt but that you would want such "educated" tyranny, as long as it fit with the tyranny you desired...

    You are aware that there are other countries out there that are already like that? One is always free to vote with the feet. Well, at least you are free to do that until you arrive at those kind of countries with judicial tyranny.

    But you also know that with the invention of cars, jets and ships, access to these "utopias" are much easier nowadays.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    So basically your fellow humans who vote against you don't deserve to have their vote respected, so you get to call them names and deride them.

    Your attitude in this regard is what conservatives deride as "liberal arrogance", and will be a likely contributing factor to the Republican takeover of the Senate very soon.

    The majority of Americans are tired of liberal activist judges and the ideologically alike in power thwarting the will of the majority of the people, then calling the majority names, adding insult to injury.
    This judge was truly respectful in commenting on the majority and their intentions...which you would know had you read the ruling.

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