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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    1.)Finally? I have discussed previously what marriage is for and one of the main reasons is for protecting children that are, yes, created through the act of procreation that can only, besides in-vitro or cloning, be accomplished by opposite sex couplings. Marriage does not specifically require procreation, just the general likelihood of the ability to procreate.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Finally? I have discussed previously what marriage is for and one of the main reasons is for protecting children that are, yes, created through the act of procreation that can only, besides in-vitro or cloning, be accomplished by opposite sex couplings. Marriage does not specifically require procreation, just the general likelihood of the ability to procreate.

    That was a shocker I am sure.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Finally? I have discussed previously what marriage is for and one of the main reasons is for protecting children that are, yes, created through the act of procreation that can only, besides in-vitro or cloning, be accomplished by opposite sex couplings. Marriage does not specifically require procreation, just the general likelihood of the ability to procreate.

    That was a shocker I am sure.
    And then are the children of gay couples less worthy of protection? They exist, thru natural reproduction, thru surrogacy, thru IV, thru adoption....do they not deserve the protection that marriage affords straight families?

    Because gay couples do desire families just as much as straight couples...and have them. Legalizing SSM wont change that...it will only provide more protections for families, kids. Gays arent going to stop having families......
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Finally? I have discussed previously what marriage is for and one of the main reasons is for protecting children that are, yes, created through the act of procreation that can only, besides in-vitro or cloning, be accomplished by opposite sex couplings. Marriage does not specifically require procreation, just the general likelihood of the ability to procreate.

    That was a shocker I am sure.
    Infertile couples have a zero percent chance of procreating. So infertile couples can't get married under your views, right?
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Of course it changed. It changed in a HUGE way....a woman is now an equal partner in a marriage, not chattel, not a servant to her husband, unable to own property, unable to leave if she chooses, no longer forced to endure his beatings, unable to refuse him sex, unable to retain custody of children, unable to refuse to be committed to a home for the insane, etc..

    A woman's status in this country was examined by SCOTUS and determined that women are not 2nd class citizens, but are instead eligible for exactly the same rights as men, including in a marriage.

    Did marriage and America collapse when that happened? No.

    Well, SCOTUS is now examining issues regarding gays....and several states have already designated homosexuals as a protected class. Several states have already legalized SSM. Better pull on your big girl panties.....SSM will become the law of the land.
    Did all that you quote about women change them into something other than the gender they were? They were still marrying the opposite gender, men... so, marriage didn't change, women changed a bit, but they were sill women marrying men... no biggie.

    Yes, well, truthfully I have seen some of your astute analyses prior. I think I'll just comfortably wait for the real decision, thank you very much.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why? You seemed to think procreation was integral to marriage. If that's the case, the infertile shouldn't marry because they cannot procreate.
    Nice try.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, the minority should be protected from the tyranny of the majority. You have it wrong.
    We have to be on guard for both Boo. The minority have minority inalienable rights as protections... that does not give you a free pass to all.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    The minority have minority inalienable rights as protections
    WTF? Can someone explain that one to me?

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    WTF? Can someone explain that one to me?
    sure

    the post that you quoted is just further proof that one has no idea how the constitution works, law works, freedom works, the court system works or rights work.

    this has been obvious for pages and pages
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So you are just going to take away the children who are being raised by same sex couples and prohibit same sex couples from raising kids? I consider that evil. You not only lost any credibility in my eyes but have shown your true character.
    No to your first question, In a free society I do not think it is possible, plausibly optimal but probably not possible...but if a SS couple have them one takes ones chances and gets what one gets in custody battles... one cannot complain and besides, no sympathy, not my/our problem.

    I would certainly not allow for SS adoption. Toleration is one thing, condoning, acceptance or promotion is simply out of the question.

    I truly might care about your opinion on that if I cared at all about your opinion. We have crossed swords enough for me to have a fairly accurate assessment, your expressed ideology is not compatible with those of the people I might desire to impress.
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