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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Are you following what was being stated? We are talking about those who have been exposed to idea and new reality of SSM actually existing [ not the theory but the practice ] and how it fares with those now being shielded and propagandized from its purposes and effects, in the future and in real time.
    its purpose is to let people marry some 1 of the same gender if they choose to

    how is that purpose being shielded from any one?

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Yes, just another way that liberal ideas have placed another straw on the cultural camels back... so hey, got another load of manure covered straws you want to heap up there, dontcha, just dontcha...

    One is forced to wonder just how puerile a statement can one make before it devolves to simply... goo goo, goo goo?

    Who is blaming solely the gays? I am blaming the ideology which supports this and any other method to eat away at the stability of marriage and American traditional values.
    so how letting people marry harm the stability of marriage?

    its traditional and hopefully American values that lend support to same sex marriage fairness, justice, equality, the pursuit of happiness, freedom

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    What you view as an "ill conceived purpose" is the problem. You are trying to justify your personal dislike by denying that reasonable considerations should matter when it comes to our laws and equal protection.
    Yes, and what is the reasonable reason that one cannot marry a tree again? What is your personal dislike of that, or do you just have enough smarts to understand that letting everyone do whatever they like is freedom to the point of chaos... or maybe some just don't have these smarts enough to know... beginning to seem to be the situation.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Wrong, but hey, everyone is entitled to an opinion, no matter its merits or lack thereof... the rest of us do not have to be stupid enough to believe them, however.
    how's it wrong or lack merit?

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Yes, and what is the reasonable reason that one cannot marry a tree again? What is your personal dislike of that, or do you just have enough smarts to understand that letting everyone do whatever they like is freedom to the point of chaos... or maybe some just don't have these smarts enough to know... beginning to seem to be the situation.
    trees cant agree to it its been mentioned all ready stop playing ( hope its playing ) dumb

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It is the requirement for the lowest tier of scrutiny. It is asking simply whether or not there is a rational basis for infringing on a Constitutional right.
    That is something made up outside the 14th... it may or may not be valid, it may or may not be a useful tool in every instance... as stated before not all problems require the same tools for resolution... this one size fits all tool is suspect at the very least, perhaps harmful if applied mandatorily, as is instanced in zero tolerance policies applied without thought and mitigation.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by blarg View Post
    how come the lack of any sane reason to ban gay marriage means you have to let any one marry any thing no matter how insane or harmful that would be its silly
    Prove the harm of me marrying a tree. I, and many on my side, think it is absolutely insane that people of the same gender need marry one another... and was unthinkable not that long ago... just shows how the left can make insanity mask for sanity...just that quick.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Really, now? How many of these myriad examples were banned before the harm was found? We wait for data that shows harm, then restrict freedom. You really think this line of thinking is supporting your side?
    Logic would assist you... may want to try that if desiring to solve problems... we know that screen doors do not work on submarines prior to sending folks down in them with screen doors... see the logic there, by any chance?
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    You are wrong on all accounts. The majority of the people, except in the Southern Democratically held states, were not for segregation... the Supreme Court, the Federal government in general, does not EVER, repeat EVER, supersede the will of the PEOPLE. You see, in our system, the PEOPLE are the sovereigns. NOT the majority of solely these nine human justices who are not free from their own personal biases. They are not our kings, they certainly are not our gods. We may let their incorrect decisions ride... or we may not... in any case, ultimately we are the in the real seat of power, we get to decide what our culture is.

    Supply your sources regarding those polls, please? Also supply the wording of these polls to see if they properly address the actual question that you say with such definitiveness as to the percentages.

    There are a myriad of examples of where no harm could be found except after the harm had occurred. One example you may believe in was in the use of the pesticide, DDT. I don't have to show how marriage between a man and a tree is harmful to the state either, to know that is not what we want for our society. It is just this sort of silliness that your side proposes, making a mockery of what is tremendously important and serious.

    Yes, well your evaluative ability was to be questioned in any event, much prior to the issue of that silly statement. This idea promulgated by the new age, mainly liberals in our own realm, regarding the subjective equivalence of all cultures has and will continue to be silliness, deadly silliness. An easy example one might use to compare would be to the earthquakes happening in Haiti and to Chile. Chile's society, even though the earthquake was stronger there, was much better prepared than Haiti. Chile had, through superior cultural and its thus derived decisions, built structures, both physically and systemically, that allowed them to bear minimal damage to edifices and people. Many, tremendously more people were killed/injured in Haiti. So yes, we have no justifiable equivalency there, unless you think loss of life and property are inconsequential. There is, no doubt, to be a striving for improvement as man goes along... but to willy-nilly change, without rationality, when those who strive to create a new right that serves minimal purpose to those concerned and even less to the majority culture as a whole that is even less concerned, well that opens the doors up to a hydra-headed Pandora's box of future cassandras... sorry, we the people not only have the right, we have the duty, the obligation to our posterity to put this silliness in its proper place in the history books... an asterisk that indicates this meaningless idea once finding wrongheaded liberal popular approval was rationally laid aside in favor of wisdom and the long term better way for all of society and its future generations.

    A victory for the thinking virtuous.
    The culture of the South was still a culture of the US. Denying that means that you do not even recognize that the same thing is happening today, acceptance of same sex marriage is pretty much a done-deal in much of the Northeast and on the West coast and even within most major cities throughout the country. Opposition to same sex marriage is only a cultural majority right now in the South, Midwest, Rocky-Mountain areas, and in general rural areas.

    As for the interracial marriage thing, here you go.

    Gay Marriage Has Twice the Support Today That Interracial Marriage Had When It Was Legalized in the 1960s *Pensito Review

    "In 1968, the year after the “activist” Supremes legalized interracial marriage in its decision on Loving vs. Virginia, a Gallup poll found that the vast majority of Americans still opposed the idea that blacks and whites could marry — 72 percent to 20 percent. Just 10 20 years earlier, in the wake of a California Supreme Court decision that overturned newly minted anti-interracial marriage laws in the state, Gallup found that 94 percent of Americans opposed mixed-race marriages."

    You cannot show harm done or even potential harm from same sex marriages. Until you can, you have nothing legally speaking.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Yes, and what is the reasonable reason that one cannot marry a tree again? What is your personal dislike of that, or do you just have enough smarts to understand that letting everyone do whatever they like is freedom to the point of chaos... or maybe some just don't have these smarts enough to know... beginning to seem to be the situation.
    Trees cannot sign contracts, they are not US citizens, they cannot communicate with humans. Laws apply to humans, not animals, plants, or inanimate objects. When a tree itself can legally sue someone, claim property rights, or be protected by the US Constitution, then we can talk.
    "A woman is like a teabag, you never know how strong she is until she gets in hot water." - Eleanor Roosevelt

    Keep your religion out of other people's marriages.

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