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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Same sex marriage is the topic of this thread, and I am in favor of reducing the government's ability to define who we can or cannot enter a private legal contract with.
    No, you're not. You are in favor of growing government in the domain of marriage. All liberals ever care about is government power and if they can give off the illusion they care for liberty while doing it all the better.

    There's no way around that, Henrin. But keep trying to deflect the conversation.
    I'm not doing anything of the sort. I don't even care about SSM. I just don't buy into the liberal bull**** they spew about this topic.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    IMO, the majority of people in the United States couldn't care any less that SSM is allowed. So, yes, taxpayers should be furious that the tyranny of a few is wasting their money. You've just picked the wrong side.
    The majority of people in MI voted to amend their constitution to disallow the ridiculous oxymoronic "gay marriage", 59 - 41 percent.

    Clearly the marjority there didn't care less -- they cared more.

    The same in every state that enacted a voter approved ban on "gay marriage": the majority of the people cared more.

    Where the states blew it, somewhat so to speak, was in not realizing that political ideology in power would one day, as sadly usual, trump majority rule, and these states would have done well to also enact at that time a civil union domestic partnership law similar to the civil union domestic partnership law called "marriage", only calling it "homarriage" or the like specifically for same-sex couples, same-sex couples who are, obviously, unqualified for the "marriage" statute civil union domestic partnership as they are not "a man and a woman as husband and wife" that marriage is.

    Money isn't everything.

    Humanity has historically spent much money righting wrongs.

    Fighting against the tyranny of the minority, the minority of those who would want "gay marriage" for themselves and their temporarily-in-power ideological power abusers supporting the disaffected coalition, is simply one of the ways humanity spends money to fight wrong doers and right wrongs.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The only thing liberals support on any subject is growing government power. Tell me a time when liberals wanted to legalize something and not have the government involved. Name me one instance of that if you can.
    How would one "legalize something" without use of governance?


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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    How would one "legalize something" without use of governance?
    Did you seriously miss the point that badly or are you just playing stupid?

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ontologuy View Post
    The majority of people in MI voted to amend their constitution to disallow the ridiculous oxymoronic "gay marriage", 59 - 41 percent.

    Clearly the marjority there didn't care less -- they cared more.

    The same in every state that enacted a voter approved ban on "gay marriage": the majority of the people cared more.

    Where the states blew it, somewhat so to speak, was in not realizing that political ideology in power would one day, as sadly usual, trump majority rule, and these states would have done well to also enact at that time a civil union domestic partnership law similar to the civil union domestic partnership law called "marriage", only calling it "homarriage" or the like specifically for same-sex couples, same-sex couples who are, obviously, unqualified for the "marriage" statute civil union domestic partnership as they are not "a man and a woman as husband and wife" that marriage is.

    Money isn't everything.

    Humanity has historically spent much money righting wrongs.

    Fighting against the tyranny of the minority, the minority of those who would want "gay marriage" for themselves and their temporarily-in-power ideological power abusers supporting the disaffected coalition, is simply one of the ways humanity spends money to fight wrong doers and right wrongs.
    I am sorry you do not like the US Constitution and the 14th amendment.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Did you seriously miss the point that badly or are you just playing stupid?
    I read your words.

    Tell me a time when liberals wanted to legalize something and not have the government involved
    What other possible meanings could they have?


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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Scary.

    So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore? Judicial tyrants decide that for us now, do they?

    Scary.
    You, "the people," are not qualified to dictate how people like me live, no. I'd take an educated "judicial tyrant" making that decision every time.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    This is America. In America we believe in this thing called individual liberty. I find Justin Bieber concerts "unacceptable" for teenage girls. Should they be illegal?
    Say JB [ since we are making up ridiculous scenarios], at age 16, was having sex with "consenting" 16-17, perhaps even 15, year old girls on the stage with the prearranged consent of all the concerned 'adult" parents, both those of participants and the audience...should that be illegal?

    I don't even want to know... you see, there should be some semblance of national lucidity in knowing that we should not even have to approach certain limits... and the cast iron confidence that if the people do decide certain limits, these limits should be able to be openly declared... and have our government dignify them with the upholding of these limits.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So you do not know how EPC works or levels of review. Not surprising.
    It is very painful to watch people comment on rulings they have not read.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by chromium View Post
    You, "the people," are not qualified to dictate how people like me live, no. I'd take an educated "judicial tyrant" making that decision every time.
    A tyrant lacks the perspective provided by millions and thus will always make an inferior decision.

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