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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    That is one way of looking at it. There are others. We have accepted majority rules with the provision for minority rights... this manner of accomplishing one's cultural aims seems a slight circumvention of those noble concepts.

    It is when we ignore these truths that trouble starts brewing.
    What trouble do you forsee resulting from two men or two women marrying each other?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

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    He'll need to post an update for The List Of Doom, though.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    See, we got this thing in the US, you might have heard of it, called the constitution. Based on the constitution, specifically the 14th amendment, every one has a right to equal protection under the law. Enforcing the constitution is not judicial tyranny.
    Oh, that's right...so you can marry your three year old niece now, can you? And then add on a couple of nephews later, no problem, correct? That is, or would be equal protection would it not? I mean, you let them other folks do what they wanted, so...

    The sane get to draw the lines, we don't just leave them open to all the crazy folk. We know some would prefer it that way, but many of us want to live in a semi-ordered society, yano?
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Liberals really shouldn't talk of individual liberty. Well, unless they are of the classical type.
    On this subject, liberals are absolutely on the side of individual liberty. If you call yourself a libertarian and are against legalizing same-sex marriage, you should ponder the apparent discrepancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Yes, yet we still do have the right to assemble with those we choose, to have the right to speak our minds, freedom to publish what we believe to be the right way to proceed, the right to petition our government for redress. And, of course, we have the freedom to practice the tenets of our various religions and philosophies... we also have provisions for changing how we are governed through amendment to our framework of governing. There are also reserved, enumerated and implied powers...

    So when the Federal government wanders over, on purpose or through ignorance, and oversteps its boundaries, well it is sometimes that We the People that have to tell them in no uncertain terms who is still the boss here.

    I think we are getting to that point here, and on boo-bamacare as well as other areas that are becoming overly concerning to which We the People can no longer just simply ignore.
    That is not culture. Those rights belong to all. All cultures.

    You need to redefine your undersanding of "culture".

    Your "culture" is no more deserving of constiutionally protected rights that any other...


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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Oh, that's right...so you can marry your three year old niece now, can you? And then add on a couple of nephews later, no problem, correct? That is, or would be equal protection would it not? I mean, you let them other folks do what they wanted, so...

    The sane get to draw the lines, we don't just leave them open to all the crazy folk. We know some would prefer it that way, but many of us want to live in a semi-ordered society, yano?
    Ahh the old slippery slope card. Always amusing.

    Well, equal protection is not a universal magic bullet for everything. It can be circumvented when a sufficiently powerful state interest exists. Children cannot sign legal contracts, and a state interest exists in keeping it that way. Number of persons in a contract is not a protected classification.

    Gender is. Defining marriage as between a male and a female is a gender-based classification. Under equal protection, an "important state interest" must be served and the measure must be "substantially related" to that interest.

    Provide that interest.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    On this subject, liberals are absolutely on the side of individual liberty. If you call yourself a libertarian and are against legalizing same-sex marriage, you should ponder the apparent discrepancy.
    The only thing liberals support on any subject is growing government power. Tell me a time when liberals wanted to legalize something and not have the government involved. Name me one instance of that if you can.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Oh, that's right...so you can marry your three year old niece now, can you? And then add on a couple of nephews later, no problem, correct? That is, or would be equal protection would it not? I mean, you let them other folks do what they wanted, so...

    The sane get to draw the lines, we don't just leave them open to all the crazy folk. We know some would prefer it that way, but many of us want to live in a semi-ordered society, yano?
    So you do not know how EPC works or levels of review. Not surprising.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Oh, that's right...so you can marry your three year old niece now, can you? And then add on a couple of nephews later, no problem, correct? That is, or would be equal protection would it not? I mean, you let them other folks do what they wanted, so...

    The sane get to draw the lines, we don't just leave them open to all the crazy folk. We know some would prefer it that way, but many of us want to live in a semi-ordered society, yano?
    I would be embarrased to call myself a "conservative"...a conservator of American Ideals and rights and make this statement.

    so you can marry your three year old niece now, can you...


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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The only thing liberals support on any subject is growing government power. Tell me a time when liberals wanted to legalize something and not have the government involved. Name me one instance of that if you can.
    Same sex marriage is the topic of this thread, and I am in favor of reducing the government's ability to define who we can or cannot enter a private legal contract with. There's no way around that, Henrin. But keep trying to deflect the conversation.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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