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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Scary.

    So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore? Judicial tyrants decide that for us now, do they?

    Scary.
    Sure you can. As long as you don't try to suppress other peoples Rights. Just like its always been.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Because there are taxpayers that want these bans no matter the monetary cost. They can't see past their own selves enough to realize that trying to ban it is a lost cause.
    That is one way of looking at it. There are others. We have accepted majority rules with the provision for minority rights... this manner of accomplishing one's cultural aims seems a slight circumvention of those noble concepts.

    It is when we ignore these truths that trouble starts brewing.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    This is simply a stupid and easily settled issue:

    Don't like SSM....don't marry someone of the same sex.
    Don't like Abortion....don't have one.
    Don't like Broccoli...don't eat it.

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    IMO, the majority of people in the United States couldn't care any less that SSM is allowed. So, yes, taxpayers should be furious that the tyranny of a few is wasting their money. You've just picked the wrong side.
    Yes, we understand the above is your opinion. Many of these bans, or in many cases only a statement of what is considered in the culture to be rightful marriage, has been through the arduous paces of becoming an amendment. That is an indication of the common will...a willingness to jump through all the hoops necessary, deliberately and persistently enough to become a solid declaration of the citizen's will.

    You see, We the People are still sovereign... we only give our consent to be governed... the will of the people to decide their own culture should not denied...sorry we need to disagree on that.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Scary.

    So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore? Judicial tyrants decide that for us now, do they?

    Scary.
    False, you can decide for yourself what is acceptable, but you don't have the right to decide what rights people have, that is left for the Congress and the courts to decide. The tyranny of the majority...

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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Scary.

    So We, you know, the People, do not get to decide what is acceptable and not in our own culture anymore? Judicial tyrants decide that for us now, do they?

    Scary.
    There is no provison in the Constitution that provides 'culture' equal protection...


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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Correct.

    The People, through the govt, get to decide what is legal (not acceptable) but only within the limits set by our constitution.

    As an individual, you can accept (or not) whatever you choose. However, you must obey the law or suffer the consequences.
    Yes...and so...what?? Marriage, is not/should not be under the purview of the Federal government, for one thing. Those powers of conferment of such statuses are reserved to the states.

    So the federal government through the federal courts are attempting a raw power grab of powers they don't, and should not, have.

    The majority of the people may not be truly opposed to SSM, but on the other hand they may not truly be for it either, nationally. And so we should let the people in those communities in those states choose their own culture. Vote with your feet if you do not like it... but to impose the minority will on the majority, well, that smacks of tyranny...but...

    Who cares about tyranny as long as you get what you want, right?
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Yes...and so...what??
    You're wrong. That's what's "what"
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I don't remember "them" saying that about slavery....probably because I wasn't there to listen, and no one bothered to write is down for me.

    By the way....thanks for showing the validity of my point.
    Well, perhaps a study of history might be helpful then, eh?

    There was the majority of the planet's history where slavery's efficacy was not even questioned...much less before it started even appearing as a blip on history's radar screen as something that needed eradication.

    Oh, and there is much written, guess you need to become more of a seeker. As for proving the shallowness as well as the invalidity of the point you were making, sure...you are much welcome.
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    re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Sure you can. As long as you don't try to suppress other peoples Rights. Just like its always been.
    We are square on that then.
    "...But resist we much, we must and we will much, about that be committed..." --- the right Reverend Alfred Charles "Al" Shaprton, Jr.

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