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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Correct, times are changing and people are for more accepting of gays so at this juncture a civil union act would sail right through.
    Why cant they have equal rights, period? Are they not equal citizens? Are you not offering them the 'same' things? Just wrapped in a differently-named envelope apparently.

    Gays want to be married...they grew up in the same society, believe in marriage the same way, and many cherish it exactly the same as many Christians. WHy should they have less? Because if it's not 'marriage,' it's not the same.

    Case in point: if YOU thought civil unions were the same, you'd have no problem with them getting married. Hence, the foundation for why 'separate is not equal.'
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Separate but equal was about things like schools and restrooms not marriage.
    Education and marriage are pretty darn important. Apparently, it wasnt good enough for education.....
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    This type of post is exactly why often one doesn't bother responding to some posts/posters.
    Because apparently you cannot. Just as you cannot explain any harm to our culture by gays...thus far or in the future... Not only that, you cannot even explain HOW 'their culture (sometimes you use lifestyle) is different...yet you object to them vehemently. Vigorously. And except for my belief that you are fixated on them having sex...you have no explanation why.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    And that is because it does not fit into the militant gay agenda. If gays merely wanted equal rights instead of wanting to make a social statement this would all be over by now.
    They bitched about militant blacks and militant women when they fought for their civil rights too. Yeah...if you have to fight for your rights, it's not real convenient for those opposing you...and not so convenient for those being lynched, hosed with firehoses, denied employment, hit with rotten fruit, beaten, and thrown in jail.

    Doesnt mean they were wrong, doesnt mean the fight wasnt/isnt justified.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If it is not followed then we have no rule of law.
    Did the Constitution say that gays cant get married?
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    What I admit was you were not calling me names specifically, except through your name calling of what you believe my posts signify... you came back at me omitting actual evidence, logic or substance with which to refute my arguments, solely the utilization of disparagement... which is not actual debate; or if so considered, certainly a very poor substitute, yano?
    Some substance I would love to see....to support your arguments...so hey, maybe I could refute them, maybe not....would be answers to the basic questions of how gays harm society....how they harm marriage...and you? How, as you have specifically claimed, they will undermine our culture.

    Sorry to jump in on someone else's response. Really wanted to reinforce that you are right...these things are needed for actual debate.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    That is piled horse manure, and you know it. It all depends on which people and which rights.

    I am fairly confident that you do not want more rights for individual murderers, child molesters, rapists, etc... that would allow each of them to more freely conduct their mischief on the rest of us... or do you?

    This was, admittedly, an exaggerated example to expose the falsehood for what it actually is... a misappropriation of the truth in order to influence, based on an appeal to some vague and noble notion.
    Which rights would gay marriage infringe on?
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Once again - in what universe does or should the government have the authority to recognize or regulate marriage?
    IMO it shouldnt, but since it does, it should be equal.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    What would be easier about civil union is public opinion. There would be far less resistance to it than to some gay guy prancing down the isle in a white wedding dress.
    When my cousin and his partner got married, there was no wedding gown. I hope you are just being facetious and dont actually believe what you wrote. More importantly, I hope you realize that most Americans already know that's not the case, unless the participants are women...if then.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Anyone who thinks getting a civil union law through would not be easier than a marriage law is the one fooling himself. You guys demand all or nothing that is the problem.
    It was tested in Hawaii. A law to legalize civil unions was passed in that state. It was vetoed by a REPUBLICAN governor. Now Hawaii has same sex marriage. I don't know why you are lying to yourself.

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