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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So it was militant gays who passed state constitutional bans against civil unions in about 20 states?

    Nice try to reenvision history.
    Right, that is history. In the now a civil union act would sail through on a fed level but the militant gays don't want that, they want the "bride" dressed in a white gown.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    There is something fundamentally wrong with this notion, that because a body of 9 people appointed for life, and more so, usually paired down to one swing Justice sits on high, and just "deems" things....Anyone else see anything wrong with this?
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Right, that is history. In the now a civil union act would sail through on a fed level but the militant gays don't want that, they want the "bride" dressed in a white gown.
    Sail through? Maybe you did not hear right. It is banned in 20 state CONSTITUTIONS. That was the doing of you and your conservative brethren. You have made no effort to repeal those bans. You have introduced no legislation on the federal level to recognize civil unions. The GOP has not changed its platform to accept civil unions and it still actively fights against them. Conservatives have not given an inch on this issue, so stop pretending otherwise. You are reeping what you sowed because you deliberately went beyond banning same sex marriage and now you are now trying to blame us for your unwillingness to compromise. Every civil union law that has ever been proposed came from gay rights supporters, not conservatives. Stop lying to yourself.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Separate but equal was about things like schools and restrooms not marriage.

    That's right, they (those in the past) just banned interracial marriage. They didn't even try for a seperate-but-equal path. Kind of like many a decade ago that pushed through total bans in the legal recognition of same.


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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Right, that is history. In the now a civil union act would sail through on a fed level but the militant gays don't want that, they want the "bride" dressed in a white gown.

    In 2012 some in my party (Repubican) tried to add a platform statement to support Civil Unions - it was shot down.


    Republicans reject Civil Union Platform


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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    In 2012 some in my party (Repubican) tried to add a platform statement to support Civil Unions - it was shot down.


    Republicans reject Civil Union Platform


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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    And that is because it does not fit into the militant gay agenda. If gays merely wanted equal rights instead of wanting to make a social statement this would all be over by now.
    There has been plenty of Republicans in office who are more than willing to attempt to pass an Amendment that would completely ban same sex marriages, and yet not one of those have ever even proposed a bill that would recognize same sex unions other than marriage. Even now, a Republican is trying to get a vote on a Federal Marriage Amendment, and yet still no federal law to recognize unions other than marriage for same sex couples. If this is what Republicans would want for a compromise, why are they not proposing it?
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Right, that is history. In the now a civil union act would sail through on a fed level but the militant gays don't want that, they want the "bride" dressed in a white gown.
    Yeah, I'm sure the Republicans in Congress will support a federal mandate that states accept civil unions in violation of their own state constitutions.

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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    So you are angry about how our government has run since 1803 and you only thought to complain about it now because the gays might be able to get married? Go figure.
    First of all, what gives you the impression I am angry? Second, you don't know me, my history or much of what I have complained or not complained about in the past, so it would be highly suggested that one might go gore one's silly ox someplace else and in some situation in which one perhaps knows a little something of which one makes the decision to speak...

    I, like you apparently, just went along with things thinking it okay... I, after having studied the situation independently, now see many many places of Federal government and judicial overreach...you may, too, if you open your eyes, have a little knowledge of circumstances under your belt.
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    Re: Judge strikes down Michigan's ban on gay marriage[W:95]

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    I believe in more rights for people, for individuals, not less. I'm sorry that you prefer to limit the rights of the people in favor of that of the government.
    That is piled horse manure, and you know it. It all depends on which people and which rights.

    I am fairly confident that you do not want more rights for individual murderers, child molesters, rapists, etc... that would allow each of them to more freely conduct their mischief on the rest of us... or do you?

    This was, admittedly, an exaggerated example to expose the falsehood for what it actually is... a misappropriation of the truth in order to influence, based on an appeal to some vague and noble notion.
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