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    Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

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    A woman whose face and hands were ripped off by a friend's pet chimpanzee in 2009 came to the Connecticut State Capitol on Friday to ask permission to sue the state for $150 million in damages.

    Charla Nash, who has undergone a face transplant and many other surgeries, including a failed double-hand transplant, spoke to the Connecticut General Assembly's Judiciary Committee, her head wrapped with protective white gauze.


    "My name is Charla Nash and I'm hoping you can make a decision based on the fact that the state knew what was happening and failed to protect me," said Nash, 60.
    On one hand, the state knew there was a dangerous animal in this man's house and did nothing about it. On the other, she knew perfectly well this man kept a dangerous animal and should have stopped visiting. Some expect governments to deal with threats to communities (like this animal) and there are those who argue on behalf of personal responsibility. This case blurs the line between those opinion.
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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    On one hand, the state knew there was a dangerous animal in this man's house and did nothing about it. On the other, she knew perfectly well this man kept a dangerous animal and should have stopped visiting. Some expect governments to deal with threats to communities (like this animal) and there are those who argue on behalf of personal responsibility. This case blurs the line between those opinion.
    No, the government is not liable. The person who had the chimp is.

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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    On one hand, the state knew there was a dangerous animal in this man's house and did nothing about it. On the other, she knew perfectly well this man kept a dangerous animal and should have stopped visiting. Some expect governments to deal with threats to communities (like this animal) and there are those who argue on behalf of personal responsibility. This case blurs the line between those opinion.
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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    On one hand, the state knew there was a dangerous animal in this man's house and did nothing about it. On the other, she knew perfectly well this man kept a dangerous animal and should have stopped visiting. Some expect governments to deal with threats to communities (like this animal) and there are those who argue on behalf of personal responsibility. This case blurs the line between those opinion.
    The animal was illegally owned and the state knew about it. She's a citizen and a taxpayer like anyone else. Even if she used bad judgment, she has a right to be protected from the things that her elected representatives determined themselves to be dangerous to her but did nothing about.

    $150,000,000 though . . . I'd like to meet the guy who thinks up these numbers.
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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    The animal was illegally owned and the state knew about it. She's a citizen and a taxpayer like anyone else. Even if she used bad judgment, she has a right to be protected from the things that her elected representatives determined themselves to be dangerous to her but did nothing about.

    $150,000,000 though . . . I'd like to meet the guy who thinks up these numbers.
    Its a hard thing for many to understand, but in the end you are responsible for your safety. Not the state.

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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

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    Its a hard thing for many to understand, but in the end you are responsible for your safety. Not the state.
    I respond to the societal structures and power relationships that exist, not the ones that I think I should have.

    The woman buys into public services. The state tasked an agency with removing animals deemed dangerous, an agency people made their living on and presumedly retire off of. This organization helped other taxpayers, but due to whatever bureaucratic red tape, not this woman.
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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    On one hand, the state knew there was a dangerous animal in this man's house and did nothing about it. On the other, she knew perfectly well this man kept a dangerous animal and should have stopped visiting. Some expect governments to deal with threats to communities (like this animal) and there are those who argue on behalf of personal responsibility. This case blurs the line between those opinion.
    She may have a case, even if I agree that the government can't possibly ensure everyone's personal safety, in this case it seems as though "DEEP" already deemed the animal dangerous, and should have taken steps to remove it.

    "Her legal team has said that before the attack, the Connecticut Department of Energy and Environment Protection (DEEP) had described the illegally owned, 200-pound (90 kilogram) chimp as a serious threat to public safety."
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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Morality Games View Post
    I respond to the societal structures and power relationships that exist, not the ones that I think I should have.

    The woman buys into public services. The state tasked an agency with removing animals deemed dangerous, an agency people made their living on and presumedly retire off of. This organization helped other taxpayers, but due to whatever bureaucratic red tape, not this woman.
    Real life exists, the monkey exists, and that womans hands and face really existed. What did not exist-was any protection by the state. This is fact, not how you believe things should be.

    And now that the woman has likely millions in bills-its time to go after the deep pockets-thats all this is. The courts have already ruled that the state has NO requirement to protect any individual. Again, this is fact, not your dream of how things work.

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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
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    On one hand, the state knew there was a dangerous animal in this man's house and did nothing about it. On the other, she knew perfectly well this man kept a dangerous animal and should have stopped visiting. Some expect governments to deal with threats to communities (like this animal) and there are those who argue on behalf of personal responsibility. This case blurs the line between those opinion.
    That was such a horrendous event that, you're right, it causes one to want to blur the line. I think I'll leave it to the judge. I'm torn.

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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    If the state regulatory agency knew there was a danger and had the means to address it (ie. knew where the chimp was being kept) but chose not to do their job without a very good reason, she has a good case against the state.

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