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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    A general responsibility-not a specific one.
    This became specific when it dealt with the animal on a different incident and realized that the animal was

    1. Illegally owned.
    2. Posed a threat.
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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This became specific when it dealt with the animal on a different incident and realized that the animal was

    1. Illegally owned.
    2. Posed a threat.
    Im sorry, but its just not true. The woman with no face is looking for a payout, she wont get it.

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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    If the state has labelled the criminal as dangerous knows that the dangerous criminal lives in X place, and refused to use its tax payer funded agencies to deal with it, then they clearly failed to do the job for which they were commissioned and should be sued. This is no different than a state refusing to deal with waste by companies until people start dying from polluted waterways.
    actually you are wrong. cop agencies can only be sued for a failure to protect when you are identified as more vulnerable


    for example, you testify against "willy the pipe" before the grand jury under a subpoena and willy says publicly-that rat fink Hatuey ain't making it to trial. Then the police usually have a specific duty to protect you.



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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually you are wrong. cop agencies can only be sued for a failure to protect when you are identified as more vulnerable

    for example, you testify against "willy the pipe" before the grand jury under a subpoena and willy says publicly-that rat fink Hatuey ain't making it to trial. Then the police usually have a specific duty to protect you.
    Didn't take you long to ad hom? Here Turtle, did the state have a duty to remove this animal once it realized it was a threat? Yes or no?
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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Im sorry, but its just not true. The woman with no face is looking for a payout, she wont get it.
    The animal wasn't illegally owned and the DEEP didn't know about it?
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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Didn't take you long to ad hom? Here Turtle, did the state have a duty to remove this animal once it realized it was a threat? Yes or no?
    not a duty that creates a right of action by the faceless victim

    what Ad Hom

    I said you were wrong



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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The animal wasn't illegally owned and the DEEP didn't know about it?
    Stop being thick-its just not true that the agency has any specific responsibility to protect her, or anyone.

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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The animal wasn't illegally owned and the DEEP didn't know about it?
    I know for a fact that numerous police agencies know where "crack houses" are located. There are many reasons why the police don't move on such public nuisances when the police first become aware of said entities. Now lets say crack house operators engage in a gun battle with rival crack dealers and a little girl walking to grandma's is hit in the crossfire

    can she SUCCESSFULLY sue the cops

    answer NO

    so what is different here?



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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Stop being thick-its just not true that the agency has any specific responsibility to protect her, or anyone.
    right you are

    former federal LEO/Attorney whose duties included defending federal LE agencies from civil suits



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    Re: Connecticut chimp attack victim seeks right to sue state

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    not a duty that creates a right of action by the faceless victim
    You're being facetious. The state of Massachusetts has laws banning the private ownership of dangerous wild animals. The state came into contact with one and for whatever reason refused to follow its own laws. Its failure to follow the law directly contributed to the attack on the woman.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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