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    Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/21/wo...ref=world&_r=1

    KIEV, Ukraine — In an effort to stabilize Ukraine and extend its authority, the interim government has set a deadline of Friday for turning in the illegal firearms that are now carried openly by so-called self-defense groups in Independence Square, the politically important plaza in the center of the capital.

    The order was seconded on Thursday by the French ambassador to Ukraine, Alain Rémy, who said the disarmament of the militias that helped overthrow the former government is a central requirement for the European Union to begin disbursing financial aid, along with the government fighting corruption.

    Prime Minister Arseniy P. Yatsenyuk, who was a staunch supporter of the protesters but never condoned violent tactics, set the deadline for Friday, the day Ukraine is scheduled to sign the political articles of an association agreement with the European Union.

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    Fat Chance anyone will give up their guns in that part of world.
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    Re: Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    Incredible. Nuclear disarmament causes Ukraine to be exposed to invasion and conquest - for which now there is an invading army occupying part of their country.

    Now the demand of those same powers that tricked Ukraine into exposing itself by getting rid of their nuclear arsenal for the apparent purpose of helping Russia conquer Ukraine, now pressuring the Ukraine to totally disarm to allow Russia to roll over all of Ukraine with no opposition whatsoever.

    Apparently, Ukraine has the most gullible and stupid leaders on earth. They should be handing out weapons advising "get ready to kill Russians if it comes to it."

    Russia has no reason to fear the uniformed Ukraine military. The only thing to fear are armed citizens and citizen's militia.

    A Ukraine citizen with a scoped hunting rifle is more danger to Russians than a Ukraine tank. The Ukraine government should be advising their military to prepare to remove their uniforms and act as civilian freedom fighters, dispersing light arms and explosives as diversely as possible.

    My conclusion is the Ukraine government is preparing to surrender to Russia having been successfully tricked by the USA - calling it "democracy."
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    Re: Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Incredible. Nuclear disarmament causes Ukraine to be exposed to invasion and conquest - for which now there is an invading army occupying part of their country.

    Now the demand of those same powers that tricked Ukraine into exposing itself by getting rid of their nuclear arsenal for the apparent purpose of helping Russia conquer Ukraine, now pressuring the Ukraine to totally disarm to allow Russia to roll over all of Ukraine with no opposition whatsoever.

    Apparently, Ukraine has the most gullible and stupid leaders on earth. They should be handing out weapons advising "get ready to kill Russians if it comes to it."
    If Ukraine's leader are the 'Most' ours come in a close second. Basically wanting the same.
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    Re: Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/21/wo...ref=world&_r=1

    KIEV, Ukraine — In an effort to stabilize Ukraine and extend its authority, the interim government has set a deadline of Friday for turning in the illegal firearms that are now carried openly by so-called self-defense groups in Independence Square, the politically important plaza in the center of the capital.

    The order was seconded on Thursday by the French ambassador to Ukraine, Alain Rémy, who said the disarmament of the militias that helped overthrow the former government is a central requirement for the European Union to begin disbursing financial aid, along with the government fighting corruption.

    Prime Minister Arseniy P. Yatsenyuk, who was a staunch supporter of the protesters but never condoned violent tactics, set the deadline for Friday, the day Ukraine is scheduled to sign the political articles of an association agreement with the European Union.

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    Fat Chance anyone will give up their guns in that part of world.
    Uh Oh, dare I say another civil war in another country, a prediction.

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    Re: Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Uh Oh, dare I say another civil war in another country, a prediction.
    balkanized?
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    Re: Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    balkanized?
    Possibly.

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    Re: Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    If Ukraine's leader are the 'Most' ours come in a close second. Basically wanting the same.
    So whose ordered you to give up your guns? Seems to me gun ownership in the U S of A is at an all time high and folks are hoarding ammunition. Hyperbole much?

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    Re: Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Incredible. Nuclear disarmament causes Ukraine to be exposed to invasion and conquest - for which now there is an invading army occupying part of their country.
    A fallacy. The Russians would simply have secured the nukes with the excuse of keeping them out of the hands of militants.

    As far as your contention that the Ukraine gov is stupid for want to reign in loose arms and rogue entities I disagree. There are so many factions including Russian sympathizers and covert infiltrators with arms it's ripe for a civil war. I see Putin purposely creating instability and invading pretending to be the peacemaker. All those loose cannons are what he wants.

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    Re: Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    So whose ordered you to give up your guns? Seems to me gun ownership in the U S of A is at an all time high and folks are hoarding ammunition. Hyperbole much?

    That's the tendency of a population worried about losing it's ability to counter tyranny.

    If you have been keeping up, the agencies of the FedGov are also 'hoarding' ammunition and weaponry at an all time high. Hmm, 'cause/effect'?

    The hyperbole crap is really uncalled for.
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    Re: Ukraine Sets Deadline for Militias to Surrender Illegal Guns

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    That's the tendency of a population worried about losing it's ability to counter tyranny.

    If you have been keeping up, the agencies of the FedGov are also 'hoarding' ammunition and weaponry at an all time high. Hmm, 'cause/effect'?

    The hyperbole crap is really uncalled for.
    Show me a credible link that proves the Feds are hoarding ammunition.

    As far as hyperbole is that a bad word now?

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