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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    SO what?

    He didn't ask for an example of someone who was convicted of a hate crime.

    He spoke about prosecutors charging a perp for a hate crime against a middle aged, white, hetero, male victim.

    This perp was charged by the prosecutor for committing a hate crime
    True enough I guess. I suppose my question then would be one where a black perp, was convicted of a hate crime against a white victim....Because in my opinion, it really is meaningless being charged if the charges are dropped a week later.
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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    True enough I guess. I suppose my question then would be one where a black perp, was convicted of a hate crime against a white victim....Because in my opinion, it really is meaningless being charged if the charges are dropped a week later.
    No, it's not meaningless

    Many people claim that hate crimes do not apply to crimes committed against white people. The fact that people are charged (including blacks) with hate crimes against whites proves that this claim is untrue. If someone is not convicted, that doesn't mean that white people can't be victims of a hate crime.
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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, it's not meaningless

    Many people claim that hate crimes do not apply to crimes committed against white people. The fact that people are charged (including blacks) with hate crimes against whites proves that this claim is untrue. If someone is not convicted, that doesn't mean that white people can't be victims of a hate crime.
    It would bolster your opinion if you could provide one that was actually indicted.....
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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    So if a person assaults or murders someone of a different ethnicity WITHOUT saying a word it is just assault or murder, but if the attacker says something like, "You black bitch!" while assaulting or murdering someone (like a black person), then it becomes a hate crime? Is that how it works?

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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, it's not meaningless

    Many people claim that hate crimes do not apply to crimes committed against white people. The fact that people are charged (including blacks) with hate crimes against whites proves that this claim is untrue. If someone is not convicted, that doesn't mean that white people can't be victims of a hate crime.
    That does seem like the prevailing notion, though. For example: the knockout game. White people were continuously being sucker punched and the crime was assault or some variation of that nomenclature. But when a black person got sucker punched, it was labeled a hate crime.

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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    It would bolster your opinion if you could provide one that was actually indicted.....
    It wasn't an opinion; It was fact

    If the people on the grand jury didn't want to indict, that doesn't mean that the law doesn't apply to people who attack white men.

    It means the GJ disagreed with the prosecutor
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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    So if a person assaults or murders someone of a different ethnicity WITHOUT saying a word it is just assault or murder, but if the attacker says something like, "You black bitch!" while assaulting or murdering someone (like a black person), then it becomes a hate crime? Is that how it works?
    Nope.
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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Murder, hate crime charges in death of man who died protecting daughter - chicagotribune.com

    I would've thought this type of harassment no longer existed.
    Yeah right, crazy **** like this happens all the time - they just rarely (if ever) charge minorities with hate crimes.

    You think if some black dude walked up to a white dude and said "hey cracka snowflake bitch" then beat him to death the black dude would be charged with a hate crime? hell no - not when progressives run Chicago.

    Furthermore, being from Chicago, this case just seems like another crazy dude freaking out - and it happens a lot, as a matter of fact it's semi-normal on trains, buses and other forms of cramped public transportation.

    I'm not trying to defend this psycho who killed this man but calling it a hate crime just because the guy was white and threw a few racial slurs is going overboard...

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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It wasn't an opinion; It was fact

    If the people on the grand jury didn't want to indict, that doesn't mean that the law doesn't apply to people who attack white men.

    It means the GJ disagreed with the prosecutor
    If you can't indict the "crime", then you have no crime....It is simple as that.
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    Re: Chicago Man Facing Hate Crime/Murder Charge

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    If you can't indict the "crime", then you have no crime....It is simple as that.
    That's not the issue

    Simple as that
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