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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    There have been many bills sent to the Senate that would create jobs if enacted. Here are some....H.R 910; H.R. 2018; H.R. 1229; H.R. 1230; H.R. 2021. They are too voluminous for me to type them out, but a quick Google search explains what they are, and none of these have anything to do with Obamacare. I agree that bills were sent that repealed the ACA and other various and sundry items, but they apparently were urged by their constituents to include them, so those were also sent.

    Greetings, Summerwind.
    Thank you, I will take a look. I have complete confidence there's some sort of finagling within the bills or Reid would've brought them to a vote. However to not further derail this thread I shall not further comment about this within it.
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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Nazis, Arabs and other antisemetic morons are always claiming that there is alot of Israeli influence over US politics. But I am starting to belive that it is the other way arround. There is to much US right wing-religious fanatic influence over Israeli politics. It seems like the Israeli right wing has no interest whatsoever in negotiating anything with a democratic whitehouse or senate, but prefer waiting for a republican with second coming fantasies.
    Israel's influence over the USofA has more to do with keeping the American politicians' feet to the fire when it comes to supporting Israel. Every new President has to re-affirm our undying bond with Israel. Israel and Egypt get the largest hangout of aid from the USofA.

    There is a perverse bond between American Evangelicals and Israel Right wing nuts....

    There is also a very strong need by the current Israeli administration to have the focus on them and not other hot spots.

    Israel's government is becoming a burden rather than ally, I wouldn't mind seeing the bond become more of a distance cousin but I don't see that being allowed anytime soon.

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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is why reading comprehension is your friend. Anthony stated Obama is an antisemite. That quote is nonsense with a simple look at his history with Jews. What are you complaining about?



    Tangential doesn't mean what you think it means. Guessing game about what? He called him because he can. Israel as it exists today is the creation of the West. If Kerry has the phone number of his counterpart, he can call them. Don't like it? I suggest you start going into politics and if you manage to take Kerry's place, you become a yes man to everyone of Israel's childish tantrums.

    Right, that why reading is fundamental. There is that part about putting 2 and 2 togerther, and Considering it has nothing to do with the piece in the first place. That leaves you and all this uhm....whatever opinion of yours pretty much talking about nothing that has to do with what the piece is about.

    Piece ain't about the other member either.

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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Say what......A Secretary of the State should be more Powerful person than the Ruling Leader of another country? I wonder why Kerrys Underling then agreed with Netanyahu. Do you know why?

    Psaki repeated Obama and Kerry's oft-stated position that the U.S. commitment to Israel's security is "unshakable," outlined several main elements of the longstanding U.S.-Israeli defense relationship. And she noted that Netanyahu himself has spoken of an "unprecedented level" of security cooperation between the countries.

    Oh, and here was the remarks that Drama Queen Kerry got upset with.

    In remarks quoted in Israeli reports on Tuesday, Yaalon said Israel cannot depend on the United States to lead any action against Iran's nuclear program and can only rely on itself.

    "We thought that the one who needs to lead the campaign against Iran is the U.S.," Yaalon was quoted by the daily Haaretz as saying during a lecture at Tel Aviv University on Monday......snip~

    Now, here is what ticked Kerry off.....

    He also disparaged American influence and power, noting the ongoing crisis over Ukraine and Russia's annexation of Crimea.....snip~

    US furious with Israeli defense minister comments, Kerry calls Netanyahu to protest | Star Tribune


    One can see how that would cause Kerry to lose his cool while dealing with Russia and the Ukraine......to call up the leader of a another country. Over something one of his people said.


    Common Sense....huh?
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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    I've made my position clear. Sorry you don't comprehend it.
    I got it Sumnmer.....I'll disagree and leave it there and I wont bother with that bit about A Secretary being more Powerful than a Leader of a Country.

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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Right, that why reading is fundamental.
    Yes, and here is the second post in your thread:

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    You can hardly blame them. First of all, they're right. And second of all, their security is largely dependent on an anti-Semite POTUS. We've seen what happens when you have to depend on Obama, ala Benghazi.
    Which you didn't seem to have a problem with until somebody called it bull****. Is there a reason for that?
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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Yes, and here is the second post in your thread:



    Which you didn't seem to have a problem with until somebody called it bull****. Is there a reason for that?


    Yeah I saw all go Right past it.....since it really didn't apply. Notice how the conversation panned out. Until you jumped. Now what.....were suppose to talk about that BS for 3 or 4 pages. Talk about that which doesn't apply or mean much at this point. For what?

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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah like that means much of anything.....now lets see how good you are at guessing about That SOS Kerry and his Authority to call another leader of a Country over the phone directly. For something that's Non Emergency?

    Hows your guessing game on that one?
    Why would you think US head of State wouldn't have the authority to call leaders of another country?

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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Why would you think US head of State wouldn't have the authority to call leaders of another country?
    To complain about what some Minister said.....Cmon Moot? This was no Emergency situation. Like I stated Kerry has an Undersecretary that can call and deal with this thru any backchannel they choose.

    There was no reason to make a scene over it.....and bring any other attention down on this Administration. Kerry should be focused on Russia.

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    Re: US Furious with Israeli Defense Minister Comments.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    lol Grow a pair?

    Actually it's better to be gentle than to pound on it.

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