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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I do not see a difference between demonstrating at one funeral and demonstrating at another funeral.
    We would simply be affirming the right that Fred Phelps himself went before the Supreme Court and fought for.

    Snyder v. Phelps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    After all, is not reaffirming the right that he himself fought for a way to ensure his memory is not forgotten?
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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    We would simply be affirming the right that Fred Phelps himself went before the Supreme Court and fought for.

    Snyder v. Phelps - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    After all, is not reaffirming the right that he himself fought for a way to ensure his memory is not forgotten?
    As I said, you would be no better than Fred.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Since he got excommunicated from the Westboro Baptist Church, I want to see them picket and demonstrate at his funeral. That would be a hoot.
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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I'll give you my opinion... he got attention partly (and to a minor extent only) to cast dispersion on Christians to show how utterly kooky they are. In this case, I don't call these people Christians they're bat-**** nuts, maybe due to inbreeding. Secondly, it got attention because these protests were being done against service people who died - which gave it a nationalistic twist.[bold mine]
    So he was basically a troll who was good at marketing. What did he have to offer to the national dialoge or to any theological discussion--- basically nothing. People like that should be ignored. Does anyone stop and listen to a raving lunatic on a street corner standing a box? No, you just move on.

    If the point was to make other christians look bad by comparing them to Phelps, then that would be a pretty sleazy thing to do wouldn't it? Sort of like comparing gay people to pedophiles. There is no comparison.

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Funny, I thought actively picketing and antagonizing family members of dead military men and women is an ACTION, not simply "words".
    Like it or not, and I don't like it, but it is free speech. It was not an illegal act(ion).

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The "Church" is just a few of his family members. Personally, I would love to see the look on Fred Phelps face right now as he has to answer to God.
    Me too.

    Imagine.......Fred, at The Pearly Gates, St. Peter hands him a tube of Astroglide, winks at him and says, "Step this way Freddy. God has something REALLY special for you."

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    God has a place for him; HELL

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Hallelujia!

    There is a special place in hell reserved for this man. The world is a better place today.

    Fred Phelps Dead: Westboro Baptist Church Founder Dies At 84
    I never want to rejoice at anyone's death but this guy gave Christianity a bad name. Jesus said (indirectly) about have the church would be made up of counterfeits but most people, especially non-believers are not aware of this and think everybody saying they're a Christian is one. I'm not God so I can't say Phelps isn't a Christian but I would have my doubts if I ever needed to offer an opinion. I good number of "Christians" are simply church members or those who've embraced church culture, which is sometimes pretty unsettling by itself. You can be "religious" and not be a true Christian and you can not be religious and a true believer. Being a Christian isn't about joining a church or complying with church culture. Its about recognizing you're in a boatload of trouble unless God forgives you, recognizing the only way that forgiveness can be legally discharged is to have Jesus' serve as your substitute in punishment, believing he died in your place and was raised from the dead and he gets to own you afterwards, which is really does already anyway.
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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Rest in peace Fred.

    With your over the top hatred of gays you actually did more for the movement than most of its proponents.

    I will not come down to your level and be jeer at your passing.
    I often wondered whether they were just trolling or were pulling off a hoax.

    Lest any homophobes think they are better than Phelps, you might not be as publicly rude, but at least he had the courage to be up front about his beliefs and accept the consequences.

    It was sad that so many people were willing to compromise the first amendment to try to shut him up. The first amendment means nothing if it doesn't apply to everyone.
    Last edited by Hard Truth; 03-20-14 at 07:49 PM.

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Phelp's dead, huh? Well, that's a shame. How will the haters keep their hating spirits up?

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