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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You know what? In reality to first order, it's pretty much exactly the same. What, did Phelp's death end our imperial wars in the ME? Fix our economy? Create better public relations between the US and other countries? Reduce the wealth gap? Control police aggression against the People?

    No, it did none of that. The world is not a better place today, the world is the same as it was yesterday. So all we have is cheering the death of a human, how Republocrat of you.
    That's an extremely limited view of the world. There are a lot of things that can make the world a better place that don't involve peace in the middle east or improving the economy. Someone can decide to go work at a food kitchen or volunteer at a convalescent center and their actions make the world a better place. Today...a horrible and despicable human being left the earth and went to face God. His absence on this planet makes the world a better place. Sorry that you cannot see that.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Hallelujia!

    There is a special place in hell reserved for this man. The world is a better place today.
    I'm not following you. Why would this early warrior against Jim Crow laws being going to hell:

    Phelps earned a law degree from Washburn University in 1964, and founded the Phelps Chartered law firm.[18] The first notable cases were related to civil rights. "I systematically brought down the Jim Crow laws of this town," he claims.[9] Phelps' daughter was quoted as saying, "We took on the Jim Crow establishment, and Kansas did not take that sitting down. They used to shoot our car windows out, screaming we were nigger lovers," and that the Phelps law firm made up one-third of the state's federal docket of civil rights cases.[19]

    Phelps took cases on behalf of African-American clients alleging racial discrimination by school systems, and a predominantly black American Legion post which had been raided by police, alleging racially based police abuse.[20] Phelps' law firm obtained settlements for some clients.[21] Phelps also sued President Ronald Reagan over Reagan's appointment of a U.S. ambassador to the Vatican, alleging this violated separation of church and state. The case was dismissed by the U.S. district court.[21][22] Phelps' law firm, staffed by himself and family members also represented non-white Kansans in discrimination actions against Kansas City Power and Light, Southwestern Bell, and the Topeka City Attorney, and represented two female professors alleging discrimination in Kansas universities.[19]

    In the 1980s, Phelps received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and the Bonner Springs branch of the NAACP, for his work on behalf of black clients.[21]

    So what are you saying, that people who fight on behalf of black clients alleging that they were racially discriminated against deserve to go to hell for helping to take down Jim Crow laws?

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yup, I can call myself a Black Panther. And Phelps was was perfectly free to call himself a Democrat. I'll just assume you're doing this for chuckles, because if you honestly believe Phelps represented any Democrat ideals, there's no reaching you.
    Yeah, I suppose being a famous civil rights lawyer doesn't count.

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You probably believe that the Democratic Republic of Congo and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are democracies. I mean, look, they both totally have the word "democratic" in them.
    Apparently the 31% of the Democratic primary voters who voted for Phelps thought that they lived in America and not in the Congo nor in North Korea.

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    This thread has destroyed any faith I might have had in mankind. Dude is dead, and all any one can think about is how to score points on him.
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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This thread has destroyed any faith I might have had in mankind. Dude is dead, and all any one can think about is how to score points on him.
    5 points.
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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You probably believe that the Democratic Republic of Congo and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea are democracies. I mean, look, they both totally have the word "democratic" in them.
    The facts remain, Fred Phelps was a registered Democrat the day he took his last breath. He ran for offices on the Democrat ticket including mayor, governor and senator multiple times. He campaigned for Bill Clinton and Al Gore and was invited to their inaugural balls not once but twice. The first time he went to celebrate with them, the second time he went to protest because Gore and Clinton's views on gay rights had changed from what they held originally. For decades, Phelps helped to get Democrats elected not just by his involvement in national campaigns but has a very long history of working to get local politicians elected until he became "controversial" over gay rights, and protesting soldiers funerals. Then no Democrat politician wanted him near them.

    The real hypocrisy lies in how the left leaning news is covering his death. Every left rag on the Internet, Nation, Huffo Puffo, the Beast, Daily Kos etc. to the MSM,( ABC, NBC, CBS,) NEVER mention Phelp's long ties to the Democrat party but instead refer to him as a "conservative" because of the church he started which is mainly made up of his own family members and has no affiliation with any Baptist organizations. NOT ONE has brought up his history as an activist for the Democrat party for decades.

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    5 points.
    Only if you had nailed him in a crosswalk.
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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This thread has destroyed any faith I might have had in mankind. Dude is dead, and all any one can think about is how to score points on him.
    Phelps was just a slightly more proactive version of Phil Robertson. So, in a lot of ways, Phelps simply acted on what the Right Wing Christians were preaching--homosexuals are an abomination, and accepting them was bringing god's wrath down onto us.

    Phelps just had the balls to say this at the grave sites of American soldiers.

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    Re: Fred Phelps Dead

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Hallelujia!

    There is a special place in hell reserved for this man. The world is a better place today.

    Fred Phelps Dead: Westboro Baptist Church Founder Dies At 84
    I hope people can cause his family the same sort of pain that the phelps family have caused others.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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