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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The trickiest part of this is that the expansion happened faster than the speed of light, something that is impossible unless the laws of the universe were not in place yet. Which indeed is the explanation.
    You can go faster than the speed of light in our current universe. It's called general relativity and it allows for gravitational waves and other phenomenon through which an object can be accelerated outside of normal propulsion. The speed of light being the "speed limit" of the universe is a consequence of specific relativity.
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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I actually keep pretty close tabs on this stuff and am amazed at how much we've learned about the origins of the universe and the laws which guide it.

    There is one thing that still seems a bit confusing. They claim that the static (white noise) that we hear on the radio is supposed to be the radiation left over from the big bang, but how could that be? Radiation is a form of light, which travels of course at the speed of light, so that radiation should have passed by us back when the big bang took place. How could we still be picking up radiation traveling at the speed of light from an event that took place 13.7 billion years ago. We sure as hell aren't traveling anywhere near fast enough to have out-paced it for this long.
    I'm thinking they may be saying it started billions of years ago and is still causing an expansion ... because we ARE still expanding.

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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    I'm thinking they may be saying it started billions of years ago and is still causing an expansion ... because we ARE still expanding.
    Maybe, but I thought the reason for our continued expansion was due to the so far undetected "Dark energy".

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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    You are guys are so silly.

    God just went *click*

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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The trickiest part of this is that the expansion happened faster than the speed of light, something that is impossible unless the laws of the universe were not in place yet. Which indeed is the explanation.
    That's not the explanation at all. And relativity does not hold that space cannot expand faster than light. In fact, it is believed that there are an ever-growing number of galaxies right now that are moving away from us faster than the speed of light because of the expansion of space. Presumably, we will never be able to see or contact these galaxies ever again.

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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    How could we still be picking up radiation traveling at the speed of light from an event that took place 13.7 billion years ago. We sure as hell aren't traveling anywhere near fast enough to have out-paced it for this long.
    Actually, that's precisely what's happening. The radiation we're measuring as the CMB has been traveling since the recombination epoch (13.8 billion years ago). And because of the nature of the expansion of our universe, there will always be photons from the recombination epoch "just arriving" at earth.

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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You are guys are so silly.

    God just went *click*
    You've got to get in that religious shot don't you... How liberally tolerant of you... as usual.

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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    You've got to get in that religious shot don't you... How liberally tolerant of you... as usual.
    Victim as usual Grim.

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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    You've got to get in that religious shot don't you... How liberally tolerant of you... as usual.
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    Re: Big Bang's Smoking Gun Found

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I know Ford didn't make my car because I discovered a wrench!
    For someone who defends Young earth Creationism this isn't an analogy you want to be making.

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