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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Okay . . . no one seems to get I was just trying to talk about the concept in general of 'school groups' and 'when it becomes unacceptable to have them' - I was not trying to claim that 'this is what they did' and 'this is what happened'

    Thus - I'm drawing no assumptions for ****s sake.

    This thread just got people all twisted up for some stupid reason - and again, I'm out.
    Ok....I was just sayin'.... I am trying to look at this objectively even though there are those in here (not you necessarily) that are just in here to stir things up and call others names....I just truly don't see the problem with a student group showing a life sized model of a baby at certain points of gestation....The article seemed to have left some things out specifically to gin up this kind of speculation that causes the division....
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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Minnie, as you know the thread title is the exact title of the article used, and must be entered without edit in this forum, so you shouldn't pretend that I somehow made up the title, it's dishonest....
    Actually I have not posted any articles in this forum before so I did not know you were not allowed to edit.
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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Actually I have not posted any articles in this forum before so I did not know you were not allowed to edit.

    Ok...Glad I could help.
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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    ?...Also, of course the terminology that pro choice individuals would like to have used is entirely, and purposely used to dehumanize the child growing inside a mothers womb. That is just a fact.
    As I have explained before the words embryo , and fetus are used to describe the different developmental stages that an unborn goes through. They are the proper medical terms .

    That is just a fact.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    As I have explained before the words embryo , and fetus are used to describe the different developmental stages that an unborn goes through. They are the proper medical terms .

    That is just a fact.
    It is also a fact that it is a human baby growing inside the womb.
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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    We don't have kids in school any longer, but we still support the public schools through the tax dollars we pay to both the state and local taxing authorities. I don't think it's the job of schools to indoctrinate kids under the guise of "educating" them, whether it be by liberals or anyone else. In any case, why should anyone have to home school a kid just because the people whose salaries he pays subscribe to the Cocteau Plan?
    If your no longer have children in school, then you are old enough to understand the grievance process. What is the arguement?

    Fight whatever you wish...what is the problem. Join with ike minded citizens and change the process. If you can not gather enough like minded people...what do you want?


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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Minnie, as you know the thread title is the exact title of the article used, and must be entered without edit in this forum, so you shouldn't pretend that I somehow made up the title, it's dishonest. Also, of course the terminology that pro choice individuals would like to have used is entirely, and purposely used to dehumanize the child growing inside a mothers womb. That is just a fact.
    Would you advocate that High school biology be taught using terms like "Mommy", "belly", "baby", and "child", when discussing the Human gestation? Sorry..."Baby making".


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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, 1. How is a life sized model of a baby not a fact based representation?
    *sigh* Was it in a controlled environment, moderated by a teacher? If not, then who cares, in relation to my post?
    2. You just said that you "have no idea what their literature is" so, how can you jump to the conclusion that it is not fact based?
    I never said it wasn't. Is reading comprehension really so hard? I've had to say the same thing 34672049760923740689723489706274354260 different times now.
    3. There is nothing in the article that says that the display was "in the lunchroom" to the best of my knowledge. It said it was during lunch. That could mean in the hall leading to the lunch room.
    Irrelevant to where I said it SHOULD be. Again, try reading...
    4. There is nothing in the article that states that the kids in the group were making a political statement with their display, that is your assumption....
    Pro life is a political position. It's not an assumption.
    Seems, you're the one who is having problems with facts.
    I cannot begin to tell you how sad it makes me when someone who clearly has trouble with understanding what he read says something ridiculous like this.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I have asked, several times in fact, that you explain how this case violates Establishment. You have not produced anything outside of ad homs and Wikipedia links that do not address the question.
    The failure is yours, you've been asked several times and have produced no argument, all that seems to happen is that you lob insults and deflect. Do you have any argument to support your position?

    The First Amendment's Establishment Clause prohibits the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion, but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another. It also prohibits the government from unduly preferring religion over non-religion, or non-religion over religion.

    It is not clear just how much the Establishment Clause tolerates. In the past, the Supreme Court has permitted religious invocations to open legislative session, government funding of bussing and textbooks for private religious schools, and efforts by school districts to arrange schedules to accommodate students’ extra-curricular religious education programs. The Court has ruled against some overtly religious displays at courthouses, state funding supplementing teacher salaries at religious schools, and some overly religious holiday decorations on public land.

    In the case of the pro-life student group, no lawsuits have yet to be filed. I mentioned this already. However, "A Christian law group, Alliance Defending Freedom, sent a letter to the school district last week that calls for an end to the alleged discrimination" - source.

    The question of "Does or could the Establishment Clause be pertinent in this case, I say YES.

    In this bulletin put out by the ACLU, The Establishment Clause and the Schools: A Legal Bulletin, the EC has been a direct factor in litigation as far what rights are permissible on public grounds, among other things.. As each case is different and adjudicated on its own merits I cannot predict what the courts will say but as the EC is the legal basis for most of these types of lawsuits, it is rational to assume it will again be used in this circumstance.

    There are those whom want to argue that abortion is not a religious doctrine, ergo not related to the Establishment Clause. That is blatantly false. Only the courts alone only can make that determination (see Abortion and Religion).

    In this example, Pro-life students bring First Amendment suit against school district, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit ruled against the Pro-life students based on the Establishment clause.

    Have I made myself clear?

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    As I have explained before the words embryo , and fetus are used to describe the different developmental stages that an unborn goes through. They are the proper medical terms .

    That is just a fact.
    Unborn what?
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