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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    i don't need to cite common knowledge.
    In other words you have nothing and are spouting from a point of ignorance.

    it isn't a deflection you committed a logical fallacy by bringing up gay sex that has nothing to do with what we are talking about.
    You need to learn what a logical fallacy is so you do not look foolish. If one group, under the guise of free speech, is allowed to promote an anti-abortion position then so should be another to promote gay sex.

    they are not showing any type of public display of sexual positions or demonstrations of such.
    Free speech is not limited to content you like. That you support some contend and oppose other only demonstrates hypocrisy.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    school are constantly sued of this and lose on a consistent basis.
    yet you are unable to reference a single case, why?

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Nobody is forcing kids to join this group...they join because of common interests.
    joining is irrelevent, posting information is the topic.


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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Very well...then why say it? Were you under the impression that I was pro-life?

    I'm not against liberal agendas in schools. I'm against the hypocrisy involved, where conservatives aren't afforded those same rights. If you have the "rainbow brigade" in one room and the "ABORTION IS MURDER!" crowd in the next room, I'm good with it. However, we both know that it's not the case.
    Of course it's not, because all schools are exactly the same, run by the same people. Obviously schools have no local influence, either in terms of community leaders or persuasion of school administrators, all schools are exactly the same. After all, we know what a liberal position "abstinence only" programs are, right?

    Please do note the sarcasm in the above paragraph.

    Why did I say it? Because your posting suggested it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    The school's in Connecticut. That's all the evidence anyone should need.
    Right, of course. The fact it happened in a school is all most people need, schools and their "liberal agendas".

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And if this were a group of gay students, you would be the first to scream about their right to free speech.
    A group of gay students wanting to disply models of fetuses at lunch time would also be banned.


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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    school are constantly sued of this and lose on a consistent basis. why? because they have to prove that said poster will cause a threat or actually induce physical violence of some kind. they cannot ban something simply because they have a feeling or don't like what is being said.
    Consider the title of this thread; "Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus." The title appears to make this a "pro-life" issue. It is not. The principal stands on perfectly legal grounds in prohibiting certain activities student groups.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's no excuse to violate someone's rights.
    All rights have restrictions. This Nation has NEVER had absolute rights without restriction or regulation. Every right has had caveats.


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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    How do you know pro-choice was forbidden? That was never mentioned. Though it still has nothing to do with religion.
    I didn't say it was. But it is a fact that no pro-choice student group existed there. I agree though, this is not about religion.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
    I didn't say it was. But it is a fact that no pro-choice student group existed there. I agree though, this is not about religion.
    OK, so you can cite a lack of a pro-choice group at school? Is there no pro-choice at school because the school denies it or lack of interest?
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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    The supreme court has ruled numerous times that students do not give up their 1st amendment rights when they walk into school. Schools can only limit speech when it comes to if it is going to cause a classroom disruption (which at lunch it isn't) or they can prove that it will cause physical harm.

    i can understand this principle but he overstepped his bounds. according to the supreme court just because something might be controversial doesn't mean that you can limit the speech of the student.
    That is not entirely correct...the SC did not say just in cases of disruption in the class or speech that will insight danger... The SC was not that specific.


    In HAZELWOOD SCHOOL DISTRICT v. KUHLMEIER, The court ruled:

    ...Educators did not offend the First Amendment by exercising editorial control over the content of student speech so long as their actions were "reasonably related to legitimate pedagogical concerns."


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