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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    No - I'm pretty certain that if someone tried to start a pro-choice group and showed aborted fetuses it would cause an uproar and be deemed offensive.
    Maybe I'm missing something (if so, I apologize) but it's the pro-life groups that use those pics for emotional blackmail....not pro-choice groups.

    And that was not even close to the case here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    If they were a biology student group, that would be completely different. But these kids have a political motive. If they hand out pro life literature or discuss why you shouldn't abort, that isn't just a science display.



    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    How is the school taking a position? And why are you talking about discussing "the political issue"? We have absolutely no indication that the exhibit was political. It's biology. If that's where the school wants to take it, to the political realm, that's their problem.

    People always criticize our public schools for not fostering independent thought. This is a classic example of that.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    You have the right to demand anything you wish...You also have the choice not to accept it.
    Actually, no, you don't have a particular "right" to do so - you have an obligation as a voting member of a democratic society to ensure you do all you can to enforce it.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post

    What do you find so shocking about a child in the womb?
    The shocking aspect would be to refer to the fetus a "child" or "baby".

    That is why science is left to the science classroom. Many of these students will going on to medical careers. To fill their heads with nonsence is a disservice.


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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I would be. Not that that I have anything against chess....its just that when you open it up to one group, you have to open it to all and there are some after-school groups that I don't think are appropriate for the school day. I have no problem with after-school groups using school facilities including religious groups, gay rights groups etc. But after-school or weekend use allows students an opportunity to choose to participate or not. When it is during the school day, it is more difficult to avoid. If you allow chess, you allow proseletyzing by religious groups during the school day.
    They're not out rambling about the school proseletyzing...they're in a room somewhere, in a group, separate from the rest of the students unless they choose to join.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Actually, no, you don't have a particular "right" to do so - you have an obligation as a voting member of a democratic society to ensure you do all you can to enforce it.
    vote your conscience, but accept the outcome.


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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    Usually that is taught in "health' class. Should we hand over teaching on gestation to school groups? Should the information be reviewed by health instructors and sanctioned or denied based on "correct" information?
    Nobody is forcing kids to join this group...they join because of common interests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Hmm - my question is 'why did they allow a pro-life group in a highschool to begin with?'

    Odd.
    Because high schoolers have thoughts and opinions?

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by 1750Texan View Post
    The shocking aspect would be to refer to the fetus a "child" or "baby".

    That is why science is left to the science classroom. Many of these students will going on to medical careers. To fill their heads with nonsence is a disservice.
    "Shocking" is a relative term, some people are more easily startled than others. You are apparently easily shocked, whereas nothing much shocks me.

    That said, science exists outside the science classroom. One would hope that students take that which they learn in the classroom and apply it to the real world they are confronted with.

    I for one don't want to perpetuate a culture of kids who are all stars in the classroom and completely useless in the real world, do you?

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    Re: Pro-Life High School Group Says Principal Banned Them From Using Life-Sized Fetus

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Ok, there are a few things obviously left out of this dust up at this school, and the reporting of it...

    1. What's wrong with showing the development of a baby?

    2. What was on the poster boards?

    3. Don't groups sanctioned within a high school have teacher advisers?

    The article leaves questions, such as

    1. What was the display depicting?

    2. Were the students just educating on the levels of gestation?

    3. Why is the development of a child in the womb, "controversial"?

    It certainly is told to us that it is fine to broach subjects like homosexuality to kindergartners,
    are we to think that high school students aren't equipped to see how a baby in the womb develops?



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