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    Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Well it looks like the people of Crimea has spoken. NINETY FIVE PERCENT voted to join Russia. WOW!!!

    We'll see what the people in Washington say who have been pushing democracy and the will of the people.

    Ukraine crisis: Early results show Crimea votes to join Russia - CNN.com

    Preliminary results in Sunday's referendum on whether Ukraine's Crimea region should join Russia or become an independent state overwhelmingly show support for Russia.

    With 50% percent of the ballots counted, more than 95% of voters want to become part of that country, according to Crimean Electoral Commission head Mikhail Malyshev.

    Earlier, he'd announced that more than 80% of voters had cast ballots by the time polls closed at 8 p.m. local time (2 p.m. ET) Sunday.

    Russian state news agency RIA Novosti, citing exit polls, reported that some 93% of people had voted to join Russia.

    Final results are expected later.

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well it looks like the people of Crimea has spoken. NINETY FIVE PERCENT voted to join Russia. WOW!!!

    We'll see what the people in Washington say who have been pushing democracy and the will of the people.

    Ukraine crisis: Early results show Crimea votes to join Russia - CNN.com
    Any election done at the point of a gun is no real election.

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    John McCain isn't a happy camper.

    McCain: 'Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country'

    Sen. John McCain returned from a trip to Ukraine on Sunday, calling for "a fundamental re-assessment" of the United States' relationship with Russian Vladimir Putin.

    “No more reset buttons," McCain told Candy Crowley on CNN's "State of the Union." “No more reset buttons, no more ‘Tell Vladimir I’ll be more flexible.’ Treat him for what he is. That does not mean re-ignition of the Cold War. But it does mean treating him in the way that we understand an individual who believes in restoring the old Russian empire.”

    McCain, who has been critical of the Obama administration's response to the crisis in Crimea, said the White House should target Russia's oil exports.

    "Russia is a gas station masquerading as a country,” McCain said. “It’s kleptocracy, it’s corruption. It’s a nation that’s really only dependent upon oil and gas for their economy. And so economic sanctions are important. Get some military assistance to Ukrainians, at least so they can defend themselves. Resume the missile defense system in Poland and the Czech Republic. Look at Moldova and Georgia, both of whom are occupied by Russian troops as we speak, a path toward membership in NATO.”

    Speaking in Kiev with a delegation of fellow U.S. senators on Saturday, McCain called for the United States to provide long-term military support — both "lethal and non-lethal" equipment — to Ukraine. "[It is] the right and decent thing to do," McCain said.

    In a New York Times op-ed published Saturday, the Republican senator sharpened his criticism of the president.

    "Crimea has exposed the disturbing lack of realism that has characterized our foreign policy under President Obama," McCain wrote. "It is this worldview, or lack of one, that must change."

    McCain added: "Crimea must be the place where President Obama recognizes this reality and begins to restore the credibility of the United States as a world leader."

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Any election done at the point of a gun is no real election.
    Can you provide evidence that people were voting at gunpoint? I didn't think so.

    NINETY FIVE PERCENT!

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Can you provide evidence that people were voting at gunpoint? I didn't think so.

    NINETY FIVE PERCENT!
    You cast a vote after the region was been invaded by Russian troops. That is voting at the point of a gun.

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well it looks like the people of Crimea has spoken. NINETY FIVE PERCENT voted to join Russia. WOW!!!

    We'll see what the people in Washington say who have been pushing democracy and the will of the people.

    Ukraine crisis: Early results show Crimea votes to join Russia - CNN.com
    I can't believe people are this naive to believe this election is legitimate.

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Well it looks like the people of Crimea has spoken. NINETY FIVE PERCENT voted to join Russia. WOW!!!

    We'll see what the people in Washington say who have been pushing democracy and the will of the people.

    Ukraine crisis: Early results show Crimea votes to join Russia - CNN.com
    All elections are real and show the true will of the people, especially those done at the point of a gun. As an example: Kim Jong Un 'elected' with 100% of the vote in North Korea, and with 100% turnout... amazing... WOW!!!

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Remember the famous call?

    Ukraine says not investigating bugging of U.S. diplomats phone talk | Reuters

    Ukraine's state security service on Saturday said it was not investigating the bugging of a phone call between U.S. diplomats in which they weighed up which opposition leaders they should back for government in a reformed Ukraine.

    U.S. diplomats tried to limit the damage on Friday after audio of the phone conversation was posted on the Internet. In it, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland was heard using an expletive in reference to the European Union.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel, already furious with Washington over reports that U.S. officials bugged her own phone, found Nuland's remarks "totally unacceptable", her spokeswoman said.
    Here's a picture of Victoria Nuland with Arseny Yatsenyuk, a.k.a. Yats, taken on February 6 BEFORE THE COUP.



    Nuland has been Washington's point person on Ukraine since a crisis broke in the former Soviet republic last November, bringing thousands of protesters out onto the streets of Kiev.
    Here is Victoria Nuland passing out cookies to the protesters



    DANG!!! That a BIG bag of cookies!!!

    Here's the article from back in December

    Russia cries foul over Western embrace of Ukraine's demonstrators - CSMonitor.com

    Though Moscow has done plenty of economic arm-twisting in its geopolitical tug-of-war with the European Union over Ukraine's allegiance, Russian leaders have on the whole kept unusually quiet as pro-Europe demonstrators blocked the central streets of Kiev over the past two weeks, barricading government buildings and setting up a tent city on Independence Square.

    Moscow's wait-and-see approach is a big departure from the Orange Revolution of 2004, when Vladimir Putin reacted to a similar outpouring of pro-Western sentiment by personally and repeatedly voicing support for the eastward-leaning countercurrent.

    In contrast, US and European officials have shuttled through Kiev to scold the democratically elected government of Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych and often to schmooze with the protesters on Independence Square. On Wednesday, US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland handed out cookies and bread to cheering protesters.

    Ms. Nuland told reporters that she'd had a "tough but realistic" conversation with Mr. Yanukovych and believed it was possible to save Ukraine's "European future" if the Ukrainian president showed "leadership."
    I wonder what the foul mouth diplomat said in that conversation. Maybe:

    "Get out or we will kick your a$$ out!"

    A little more from the article

    State Department spokesperson Jen Psaki suggested the US might even impose sanctions on Ukraine, while the US government-funded think tank Freedom House called upon Yanukovych to resign and set early elections as "the only non-violent way to end the standoff with demonstrators."

    And German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle toured the Independence Square protest camp with two opposition leaders and declared that "Ukraine should be on board with Europe."

    All this prompted Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov to slam what he described as Western officials' out-of-line behavior Friday.

    "Some of the comments that have been made by American officials over the last few days are shocking," Mr. Ryabkov said. "They are not even recommendations but bigoted demands that are put before the Ukrainian leadership, demands whose sharp wording reflects both a political course that we understand quite well and a certain play of emotions."
    One can only imagine Nuland saying:

    "You either do as I tell you, or I'm gonna put my foot in your a$$!"

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    You cast a vote after the region was been invaded by Russian troops. That is voting at the point of a gun.
    How many people were killed in this so called invasion of Crimea?

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    re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    All elections are real and show the true will of the people, especially those done at the point of a gun. As an example: Kim Jong Un 'elected' with 100% of the vote in North Korea, and with 100% turnout... amazing... WOW!!!
    Elections at the point of a gun??? Can you please provide evidence of someone threatening someone with a gun?

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