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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    At least you now admit the Obama White House are liars, since it claims Russia brought in pre-marked ballots and those are what was counted.

    Oh, yeah, and Jews voluntarily reported to be sent to concentrations camps, so that is what they wanted to do too.
    All Administrations lie, this isn't news. If you think it's only the Obama administration, then you're not worth debating in the slightest due to your lack of knowledge and your blind faith in conservative leaders.
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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do you believe that Putin will just stay on the Ukraine border and not take back Russian-speaking portions of Eastern Ukraine ?
    I felt that the US and EU would rise up strongly in order to prevent Putin from advancing further into the Ukraine but the very weak response so far, almost encouragement in fact, is discouraging.

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Can't deal with the rest of the post I see.
    What? The rest of your post has nothing to do with it. We know the US would respond much as Russia did. And you would, somehow, find a way to be against it. Because you're inconsistent.

    The US/EU was courting the Ukraine as Russia was. Russia won and the west couldn't take it and sponsored and supported a violent coup of the elected government. Only idiots would blame Putin for calling bull**** and doing what he has to do now to protect his assets and interests. Just going to have to deal with it and move on. Why do YOU even care?
    So I dealt with the rest of your post, can you now admit you'd be posting ad nauseum against it if under American supervision a referendum took place and 95% of the voters supported the policy that the US did? What you're accepting from Russia is something you'd never accept from the US.

    Because you're inconsistent.
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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It would appear a 13-1 vote in the Security Council, with China abstaining, would say Putin is wrong?
    And wondering how fast, if at all, Putin's ruble and stock market will come back.

    Putin needs another Cold War to strengthen his economy with an arms build-up ala the 1950's .
    We should take him up on it and turn it to ice water. We should forum alliances with all countries on Russia's Western and Southern borders, put the iron curtain back up, and use arms build-up to restore our industrial base - as only military industries can get around crushing federal regulations.

    With Eastern and Southern portions of the former USSR, Russia would be only a shadow of its' past and the US and our new allies would overwhelm Russia in wealth, population and military power. We prospered and won the last cold war. We would win another one far, far more. Russia is already a collapsing country by virtually every measure, even population decline. It is a country of unemployed alcoholics. But for Western cowardice and appeasement (as with Hitler) the West could crush Russia in terms of economics and world status.

    This is the stupidest move Putin could have made, but Obama and NATO are determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. A billion people will ultimately die for making treaties to avoid world nuclear proliferation worthless.

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Yes, Russia militarily seized Ukraine's resources and Afghanistan's resources are ours.

    What part of the world do you want the next slaughter to occur?
    Who's being slaughtered?
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    What? The rest of your post has nothing to do with it. We know the US would respond much as Russia did. And you would, somehow, find a way to be against it. Because you're inconsistent.



    So I dealt with the rest of your post, can you now admit you'd be posting ad nauseum against it if under American supervision a referendum took place and 95% of the voters supported the policy that the US did? What you're accepting from Russia is something you'd never accept from the US.

    Because you're inconsistent.
    You acknowledge that the US would do the same thing Russia is doing, so how is it that what Russia is doing is wrong. If they did it with no referendum at all. He had things as he needed them the fair and honest way, but the West couldn't deal with that. ****ed it all up, now Putin is taking charge of things.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    If the US did what? Responded to Russia covertly working to overthrow the elected government of a country on our border that we had three military bases in and a ****load of English speaking loyal citizens. Too funny.
    Loyal citizens?

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I think that the alternative, supporting the AQ, MB Al Nusra terrorists he's fighting is worse.
    The fact that you can only see two options is troubling.

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    The fact that you can only see two options is troubling.
    I never said there was only two.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Crimea votes to join Russia[W:223]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It would appear a 13-1 vote in the Security Council, with China abstaining, would say Putin is wrong?
    And wondering how fast, if at all, Putin's ruble and stock market will come back.

    Putin needs another Cold War to strengthen his economy with an arms build-up ala the 1950's .
    Dang Nimby. You gotta stop saying things that make sense and that I totally agree with. I screws with my mind. jk

    Keep it up buddy. You're on the right track on this one and you're making good arguments.
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